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    Pipo M6pro Coaxial cable and antennas modification/replacement

    Finally I've modded antenna part of my M6 pro and here in the followings are the details and result of my work:

    I've noticed that 3G sensitivity of m6pro is very bad!
    Where 3G signal strength is not good our tablet has problems connecting to network, where for example Samsung phones works without problems.

    About Wi-Fi, I had no problems connecting to my router at Home, but 2-3meters far from the router the signal strength and speed connection decrease very quickly.

    For these reasons I decided to try to replace coaxial cable with a low loss one (that is also a lot bigger than the stock one)
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    During the operation unfortunately I DESTROYED original wi-fi antenna (too much fragile!!!).
    So I needed another one, I bought a iPad mini antenna replacement (not a good solution, I think that a laptop wi-fi antenna is a LOT better), but that was the cheapest I found...

    At the same time I bought a 3G antenna replacement.
    These are the antennas:
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    Opening the tablet this is the original position of the antennas:
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    I think that 3G antenna is placed in a VERY BAD position: because the back alluminum cover is placed direclty on it, otherwise the GPS and Wi-Fi/BT antennas are placed in a good position because the back cover in that position is only plastic.
    So I decided to move the 3G antenna on the side of the tablet, in the same position where are the GPS and Wi-Fi.

    First of all I slightliy move towards the top of the tablet the GPS antenna to have room for the other antennas.
    I tried the new 3G antenna, but tablet's behaviour strangely became unstable, touchscreen becoming to work by itself...I tried to solder it back the stock antenna, and the tablet works ok! (Very inexplicable behaviour).
    I soldet the new coaxial cable too:
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    Next, I decidet to solder the new Wi-Fi bluethoot antenna on top of all antennas. This is the result (covered by the tape):
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    Not a beautiful work...but luckily this is hidden by the rear alluminum cover!


    Now is the TEST part:

    About 3G: Now the tablet is able to connect on low strength 3G networks. I continue to think that the stock 3G antenna is not so good at all, but thanks to the new low loss coax cable and the new antenna position it is working better than before.

    About Wi-Fi: Signal gain with the low loss cable and hopefully the new antenna is 6-7dBm, not a great result, but as I told before this is due to the iPad mini antenna, that seems not good at all. I think I will definitely replace it with a laptop one as soon as I will have time (and antenna spare part!).

    I didn't have the possibility to verify if GPS is still working, because I have Kitkat installed now (and GPS is not working in this beta), and this week-end was rainy all the time!

    Weight: Tape, antenna, and new bigger coax cable make the tablet to increase of 7grams....


    Final words:

    In my opinion it is very difficult to do this work, because I needed to solder the new cables directly to the motherboard, and the possibility to damage something is very high. I think that the replacement of wi-fi antenna with a laptop one (keeping the stock cable, resoldering the antenna part only) is a lot easier and will give a huge improvement to signal strength.

    3G antenna is another story...It could be easy to replace 3G antenna only, but it is necessary to find a "compatible" antenna, and THIS is not easy at all!

    Finally I'm happy that my tablet is still working! I think I will change the Wi-fi antenna again, without touching the cables!
    if you appreciate my efforts this is the link for any donation:
    https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...NonHostedGuest

    #2
    you seemed to be confident the iPad mini antenna will do much better than the native PIpo wifi antenna,
    alas this is not the case

    But did your tablet's wifi retrieve its ability to connect and transfer like the stock hardware config ?

    If maximum wifi perf is what you're after,
    I suggest you externalize a coax plug and connect to it an external hi perf antenna (biquad, fractal or hi gain omni directional).
    cf http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35097746
    Last edited by raxy; 19 January 2014, 23:11.

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      #3
      No, I hoped that it was better than the original, but in reality is more or less as the stock one.
      This is why I would like to replace it again with one coming from a laptop.

      Of course everything need to stay INSIDE the tablet!
      if you appreciate my efforts this is the link for any donation:
      https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...NonHostedGuest

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        #4
        From my previous experience about how to significantly upgrade the performance of a portable device without external wifi antennas (on an eeePC 901 netbook);
        the best thing I did was to remove the stock miniPCIE wifi card and replace it with a more performant one and keep on using the same stock internal antennas and coax cables.

        The result was really much better overall wifi performance.

        That is to say you might face some deception if you only change the internal wifi antenna;
        laptop antennas are not all better than stock tablet antennas I think.

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          #5
          Not completely true:
          a good antenna with high gain can do a better job that a new wi-fi module...
          In the case of a tablet the wi-fi and 3G modules cannot be changed,then the only thing to do is replace the antennas. With a high gain antenna you can also reduce Txpower to save battery.

          Unfortunately, high gain antennas are big and cannot be fitted inside of a tablet, but I'm sure that improving the quality of the antenna and also of the coax cables there is room for improvement, and the preliminary modifications I have done are the proof of that.
          if you appreciate my efforts this is the link for any donation:
          https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...NonHostedGuest

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            #6
            Empirical choice of so called good antenna will not garantee you 100% success,
            Better find out a tablet proved to have a very solid wifi performance and then buy genuine antenna from that manufacturer.
            Cheap compatible copycats often perform worse that the genuine parts, we all know that.
            Hope your quest will end soon so that you can simply enjoy using your m6 like anybody else.

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              #7
              My tablet is working properly now, I just want to reach better performances saving battery!
              That's the goal.

              At the moment I'm tired and I will stay with the tablet as it is for a while...
              if you appreciate my efforts this is the link for any donation:
              https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...NonHostedGuest

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                #8
                I'm glad to say that my tutorial was watched 800+ times and at least 2 people managed to fix their wifi using this non-intrusive method.

                I don't say that one method is better than the other or how the wifi drains the battery (usually when I don't use the tablet, I keep it on airplane mode).

                @elmachinegun: sorry to hear about your antenna, glad you got it fixed though

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                  #9
                  giouncino
                  A then.I apologize, for an online translator.
                  I so understood that you only replaced a cable. You didn't measure Standing wave ratio in the antenna? It is ideally possible to set up the antenn

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by RONIN. View Post
                    giouncino
                    A then.I apologize, for an online translator.
                    I so understood that you only replaced a cable. You didn't measure Standing wave ratio in the antenna? It is ideally possible to set up the antenn
                    I replaced the cables with low loss coax cables, then I replaced wifi antenna, rebuilt the GPS antenna (because the stock one was too short), tried to replace 3G antenna without success (tablet won't work properly with another 3G antenna!)
                    if you appreciate my efforts this is the link for any donation:
                    https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...NonHostedGuest

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                      #11
                      GPS на меня ловит хорошо. А вот Wi-Fi плохо. Поставлю и изменить антенну. Тогда я выложу До и После.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by RONIN. View Post
                        GPS на меня ловит хорошо. А вот Wi-Fi плохо. Поставлю и изменить антенну. Тогда я выложу До и После.
                        Could you please translate? I don't understand...
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                          #13
                          GPS catches well. And here Wi-Fi it is bad. I will try to set up the antenna. Then I will lay out Before and after.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by RONIN. View Post
                            GPS catches well. And here Wi-Fi it is bad. I will try to set up the antenna. Then I will lay out Before and after.
                            pay attention that the stock coax cable is delicate during soldering!
                            Pay attention to short circuits!
                            if you appreciate my efforts this is the link for any donation:
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                              #15
                              Certainly
                              Last edited by RONIN.; 14 August 2014, 16:40.

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