Tronsmart Vega s89 and HDMI 1080p24 output

[Guest]

Tronsmart Vega s89 Standard/Elite doesn't support HDMI 1080p24 output. There is no such option at all.
I'm very disappointed - this device does not support one of the main standard HDMI output resolutions.

[noderat]

AFAIK there is no android device that supports 1080p24 out of the box, perhaps in time. But did this really require it's own thread? We have quite the discussion going on elsewhere. Perhaps this thread can get merged.

[Guest]

AFAIK there is no android device that supports 1080p24 out of the box, perhaps in time. But did this really require it's own thread? We have quite the discussion going on elsewhere. Perhaps this thread can get merged.

There are many Android devices which support HDMI 1080p24 output out of the box. For example I have MeLE M9 with such support.

[noderat]

There are many Android devices which support HDMI 1080p24 output out of the box. For example I have MeLE M9 with such support.

Wow, I had a M9 and didn't even know it supported 24hz, well the Vega does 4K2K at 24hz so the refresh rate is there, perhaps there is something can be done kernel/rom to give 24hz

[d33]

Wow, I had a M9 and didn't even know it supported 24hz, well the Vega does 4K2K at 24hz so the refresh rate is there, perhaps there is something can be done kernel/rom to give 24hz

Supported in the source

        .VIC            = HDMI_1080p24,
        .color_prefer   = COLOR_SPACE_RGB444,
        .color_depth    = COLOR_24BIT,
        .bar_info       = B_BAR_VERT_HORIZ,
        .repeat_time    = NO_REPEAT,
        .aspect_ratio   = TV_ASPECT_RATIO_16_9,
        .cc             = CC_ITU709,
        .ss             = SS_SCAN_UNDER,
        .sc             = SC_SCALE_HORIZ_VERT,

[noderat]

Re: Tronsmart Vega s89 and HDMI 1080p24 output

Supported in the source

        .VIC            = HDMI_1080p24,
        .color_prefer   = COLOR_SPACE_RGB444,
        .color_depth    = COLOR_24BIT,
        .bar_info       = B_BAR_VERT_HORIZ,
        .repeat_time    = NO_REPEAT,
        .aspect_ratio   = TV_ASPECT_RATIO_16_9,
        .cc             = CC_ITU709,
        .ss             = SS_SCAN_UNDER,
        .sc             = SC_SCALE_HORIZ_VERT,

And a hat tip to you, fine sir.

Sent from my Nexus7, apologies for any typos.

[looun]

Supported in the source

        .VIC            = HDMI_1080p24,
        .color_prefer   = COLOR_SPACE_RGB444,
        .color_depth    = COLOR_24BIT,
        .bar_info       = B_BAR_VERT_HORIZ,
        .repeat_time    = NO_REPEAT,
        .aspect_ratio   = TV_ASPECT_RATIO_16_9,
        .cc             = CC_ITU709,
        .ss             = SS_SCAN_UNDER,
        .sc             = SC_SCALE_HORIZ_VERT,

with "XBMC + Rooted" 24p and 'adjust display framerate to video' work's?
thanks.

[zoelechat]

with "XBMC + Rooted" 24p and 'adjust display framerate to video' work's?
thanks.

No, XBMC always use fixed box system settings (whose choice is 50/60). This option does nothing whatever is movie framerate, as well as vsync it seems.
XBMC even report 60hz when set to 50p!? (50p being confirmed by TV)

[spot0915]

Wow, I had a M9 and didn't even know it supported 24hz, well the Vega does 4K2K at 24hz so the refresh rate is there, perhaps there is something can be done kernel/rom to give 24hz

Are there any news to this with the new rom´s available etc?
My TV still shows 1080 60hz at 1080p24 movies...using Finless rom 1.6

Any chance to get a full 1080p24 support with the box sometime soon?
Or is it something I already can set up myself somehow?

Thanks
Mark

[vprasinos]

Why do you need 1080p@24? XBMC runs perfectly fine in 1080p@60Hz and the menus are fluid. If you use 1080p@24 then the menu navigation within XBMC and the android environment will become a lot less smooth. You do NOT want that.

If you have stuttering in movies then this is another issue...

[zoelechat]

Why do you need 1080p@24? XBMC runs perfectly fine in 1080p@60Hz and the menus are fluid. If you use 1080p@24 then the menu navigation within XBMC and the android environment will become a lot less smooth. You do NOT want that.

If you have stuttering in movies then this is another issue...

What is expected is that XBMC switches automatically to movie refresh rate whatever is the one set in system. Menus could be 60p and movie 24p until switched, the option exists but is not active.
In other thread you're talking about pulldown that makes playback smoother, you're right but it can't do miracles (24/60 is mostly good even if not perfect, 24/50 or 25/60 will never be).
Then, if for example system is set to 50p, XBMC still reports 60Hz so I wonder how it could do any proper pulldown starting from false information...

[typiak]

I want 24p, me too...and maybe a lot of users!

Why do you need 1080p@24? XBMC runs perfectly fine in 1080p@60Hz and the menus are fluid. If you use 1080p@24 then the menu navigation within XBMC and the android environment will become a lot less smooth. You do NOT want that.

If you have stuttering in movies then this is another issue...

Of course a fluid interface is nice to see, but me, and a lot of people, prefer have the best movies quality than have the best interface quality!

May be, for you, framerate is not a major feature, but for me it's as important as the resolution: i would be sad if i couldn't see a 1080p movie in full hd. For the 24p, it's the same.

Me too, i also want this feature and if someone know how activate it in the kernel, i'm really very interested.

[madweegie]

Of course a fluid interface is nice to see, but me, and a lot of people, prefer have the best movies quality than have the best interface quality!

May be, for you, framerate is not a major feature, but for me it's as important as the resolution: i would be sad if i couldn't see a 1080p movie in full hd. For the 24p, it's the same.

Me too, i also want this feature and if someone know how activate it in the kernel, i'm really very interested.

+1 agreed 24p is very important and required.

[vprasinos]

I'm not saying it is not required, I am only saying that if you use 24fps in XBMC menu your user experience goes away!

What is really needed is to switch from 1080p@60 in menus to 1080p@24 when running the movie ONLY.

What is expected is that XBMC switches automatically to movie refresh rate whatever is the one set in system. Menus could be 60p and movie 24p until switched, the option exists but is not active.
In other thread you're talking about pulldown that makes playback smoother, you're right but it can't do miracles (24/60 is mostly good even if not perfect, 24/50 or 25/60 will never be).
Then, if for example system is set to 50p, XBMC still reports 60Hz so I wonder how it could do any proper pulldown starting from false information...

You are very right about your info. No 24p switching happens because obviously it is not implemented in kernel. Lokie is working/will work on that I think.

Also I'm talking about movies that we watch on our machines 99% of the time they are 24p. 24/60 pulldown is perfect in XBMC and does not produce stutter as long as libstagefright is used. Amcodec is problematic with some files, mostly XviD (colors and sharpness is not as good as libstagefright also) and most users will complain about choppiness and frame skips while the real suspect here is AMCODEC.

And finally true 24p in XBMC will be really needed when you have material that is 25fps such as home made movies - but even then I think XBMC will still do a great job of 25/60 pulldown. Also true 24p is also needed when you want to enable specific motion control on the TV such as Clearmotion, Truemotion and such that a 60hz signal will never produce the soap-opera effect.

So in my experience what is of urgent attention here is an updated version of AMCODEC and not a true 1080p@24 mode since amcodec will handle all the conversions and pulldowns to be made. A 1080p@24 mode in the kernel will not stop frame skips and framerate problems using 1080p@24 material but a good version of AMCODEC!

[spot0915]

You are very right about your info. No 24p switching happens because obviously it is not implemented in kernel. Lokie is working/will work on that I think.

According to the faq here it is supported in the kernel, but not implemented in the rom if I understand it correct....

Anyway, I am certainly talking about stuttering movies in 24p. ...when asking for it. ...