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    Modded Tronsmart Vega Standard - Cooling chapter

    Hi guys.

    Sick of running a hot box and even sicker of kernels reporting random temperatures (104k4) I decided to mod my box and install a real heatsink in there plus some active cooling to complement.

    The following pictures show the installation and modifications done to make an Enzotech CNB-R1 copper heatsink fit. By the way, I'm impressed with this product. Never thought a 'simple' heatsink would come so beautifully packaged. Very very nice product.

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    The smallest clip had a hole to hole distance larger than needed by 3mm or so, so I enlarged the holes towards the center to make it fit. I wasn't able to get to the correct distance, but just enough for the pins to do their job, even at an angle.

    As you can see, the heatsink is massive. I had to remove some material in strategic places to make some chips that are a little taller than the SoC clear the heatsink and allow full contact with the SoC (I didn't have copper shims at hand, a mere 0.5mm would have sufficed)

    Since the heatsink is 30mm tall, the next step was to cut a hole for it to protrude at the top of the box. I used one of the other clips included with the heatsink to decorate the horrendous hole I made to the beautiful vinyl disk finish of the box top. I actually like it and the fact that the only part of the word Tronsmart left was "art"... pretty artistic, don't you think?

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    To the bottom I added a small fan where the vent holes are... I actually cut a square section to give full flow. Also, small legs made of toothpick sections were added to elevate the box of the ground and allow the fan to move some air. When at the desk, the box has the front touching and the rear in the air.

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    For the tests before and after the mod, I flashed the stock 101k4 ROM and installed Antutu Benchmark and CpuTemp applications only. What I did was to run Antutu, take note of the score and the max temp during the test, let the box idle until the temperature stabilized and take readings then, basically metering how well is the heatsink to do its work (dissipating heat)

    First test, the stock heatsink with Arctic Silver instead of the thermal pads, open box, ceiling fan working:
    - Max observed Temp during test = 91 degrees centigrade
    - Antutu Score = 13k
    - Min temperature while idle = 80 degrees centigrade

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    Second test, Enzotech heatsink with Arctic Silver paste, without active cooling, open box, ceiling fan working:
    - Max observed Temp during test = 82 degrees centigrade
    - Antutu Score = 25k
    - Min temperature while idle = 77 degrees centigrade
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    Third test, Enzotech heatsink with Arctic Silver paste, with active cooling enabled, closed box, ceiling fan off:
    - Max observed Temp during test = 79 degrees centigrade
    - Antutu Score = 26k
    - Min temperature while idle = 72 degrees centigrade
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    I also made a test identical to the last one but with Finless CPU fixer and got readings not higher than 83 degrees and stable idle at 74 degrees.

    Well, at least I know my box is not frying but overall life can become quite short anyways... I will enjoy it while lasts.

    Hope you enjoy the thread.

    Saludos!

    #2
    Re: Modded Tronsmart Vega Standard - Cooling chapter

    Originally posted by cerm78 View Post
    Hi guys.

    Sick of running a hot box and even sicker of kernels reporting random temperatures (104k4) I decided to mod my box and install a real heatsink in there plus some active cooling to complement.

    The following pictures show the installation and modifications done to make an Enzotech CNB-R1 copper heatsink fit. By the way, I'm impressed with this product. Never thought a 'simple' heatsink would come so beautifully packaged. Very very nice product.

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]6576[/ATTACH]

    The smallest clip had a hole to hole distance larger than needed by 3mm or so, so I enlarged the holes towards the center to make it fit. I wasn't able to get to the correct distance, but just enough for the pins to do their job, even at an angle.

    As you can see, the heatsink is massive. I had to remove some material in strategic places to make some chips that are a little taller than the SoC clear the heatsink and allow full contact with the SoC (I didn't have copper shims at hand, a mere 0.5mm would have sufficed)

    Since the heatsink is 30mm tall, the next step was to cut a hole for it to protrude at the top of the box. I used one of the other clips included with the heatsink to decorate the horrendous hole I made to the beautiful vinyl disk finish of the box top. I actually like it and the fact that the only part of the word Tronsmart left was "art"... pretty artistic, don't you think?

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]6577[/ATTACH]

    To the bottom I added a small fan where the vent holes are... I actually cut a square section to give full flow. Also, small legs made of toothpick sections were added to elevate the box of the ground and allow the fan to move some air. When at the desk, the box has the front touching and the rear in the air.

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]6578[/ATTACH]

    For the tests before and after the mod, I flashed the stock 101k4 ROM and installed Antutu Benchmark and CpuTemp applications only. What I did was to run Antutu, take note of the score and the max temp during the test, let the box idle until the temperature stabilized and take readings then, basically metering how well is the heatsink to do its work (dissipating heat)

    First test, the stock heatsink with Arctic Silver instead of the thermal pads, open box, ceiling fan working:
    - Max observed Temp during test = 91 degrees centigrade
    - Antutu Score = 13k
    - Min temperature while idle = 80 degrees centigrade

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]6579[/ATTACH]

    Second test, Enzotech heatsink with Arctic Silver paste, without active cooling, open box, ceiling fan working:
    - Max observed Temp during test = 82 degrees centigrade
    - Antutu Score = 25k
    - Min temperature while idle = 77 degrees centigrade
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]6580[/ATTACH]

    Third test, Enzotech heatsink with Arctic Silver paste, with active cooling enabled, closed box, ceiling fan off:
    - Max observed Temp during test = 79 degrees centigrade
    - Antutu Score = 26k
    - Min temperature while idle = 72 degrees centigrade
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]6581[/ATTACH]

    I also made a test identical to the last one but with Finless CPU fixer and got readings not higher than 83 degrees and stable idle at 74 degrees.

    Well, at least I know my box is not frying but overall life can become quite short anyways... I will enjoy it while lasts.

    Hope you enjoy the thread.

    Saludos!
    72deg C with a heat sink that size seems very high?. I get 40ish idle with my sink and upto 65deg c during Antutu and the sinks are in the closed box.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

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      #3
      Originally posted by Batfink32 View Post
      72deg C with a heat sink that size seems very high?. I get 40ish idle with my sink and upto 65deg c during Antutu and the sinks are in the closed box.

      Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
      Yes, but that's the problem with this device... it get's really hot (nobody know why)...

      cerm78, why don't you use the fan directly at the Enzotech CNB-R1 ?
      I think it maybe can be better cooling the HS then the air through the case "downsideup"...
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      Tronsmart Draco AW80 Meta (2/16GB) - FW v2.0rc3 - (Allwinner A80) (sponsored by GeekBuying.com)
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        #4
        Re: Modded Tronsmart Vega Standard - Cooling chapter

        Originally posted by no_spam_for_me View Post
        Yes, but that's the problem with this device... it get's really hot (nobody know why)...

        cerm78, why don't you use the fan directly at the Enzotech CNB-R1 ?
        I think it maybe can be better cooling the HS then the air through the case "downsideup"...
        Different build quality on each device maybe?

        Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

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          #5
          Nice mod! There has to be something wrong with your device with such high temperatures even after the mod. My modified box's temps don't get this high although I have smaller HS and only passive cooling. Also the Antutu scores seem low if you used normal Antutu (not Antutu X).

          Have you tried to measure how hot does the heat sink get during heavy load? Are you sure that your box really gets that hot? Maybe it's just the temperature sensor that is flawed...

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            #6
            I dont trust SW Temp. Readings on this device !

            Solution;

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              #7
              I also use IR temp gun but temperature from heat sink is not the same as the core temp. It is difficult to say how much HS temp differs from core temp and it depends of many things.

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                #8
                Originally posted by hectowalrus View Post
                I also use IR temp gun but temperature from heat sink is not the same as the core temp. It is difficult to say how much HS temp differs from core temp and it depends of many things.
                +1
                And don't forget: It's difficult to get SoC inside-temperature at this way
                RK3288 Devices
                - Overview BOX (LINK !)
                - Overview STICK (Dongle) (LINK !)

                MINIX NEO: Z64 W/A - (Intel Z3735F); X8-H Plus - (Amlogic S812H); A2 Lite (sponsored by minix.com.hk)
                UGOOS UT3S (4/32GB with fan) - FW 2.0.6 - (RK3288) (sponsored by GearBest.com)
                Tronsmart Draco AW80 Meta (2/16GB) - FW v2.0rc3 - (Allwinner A80) (sponsored by GeekBuying.com)
                Beelink / UBOX R89 - FW 111k4110_1219 - (RK3288) (sponsored by Netxeon (Beelink))

                RK3188: pcb => "CH001 1332 TN-BX09_V2.1" (K-R42 / CS918...) => wasser KK 1.0.3 (old rev)
                Fly Mouse Mini Wireless Keyboard with 2 mode learning IR remote 'iPazzPort KP-810-16'

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by no_spam_for_me View Post
                  ...
                  cerm78, why don't you use the fan directly at the Enzotech CNB-R1 ?
                  I think it maybe can be better cooling the HS then the air through the case "downsideup"...
                  I thought of that but it detracts from the looks

                  I will try with the fan flow inverted (sucking air instead of pushing it) That should make the airflow come from the top of the box trough the heatsink. I'll also block some extra vents I made at the front-bottom of the box (while playing with the stock sink) to force ALL air through the heatsink. I'll make readings with the exact same procedure. Maybe I also try mounting the fan at the top of the HS but I don't like how it looks.

                  Regards

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by cerm78 View Post
                    1. but it detracts from the looks
                    2. I will try with the fan flow inverted (sucking air instead of pushing it)
                    1. ok that's an argument
                    2. I don't know, I don't know if it is a really good idea to transport the head through the box...
                    RK3288 Devices
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                    - Overview STICK (Dongle) (LINK !)

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                    UGOOS UT3S (4/32GB with fan) - FW 2.0.6 - (RK3288) (sponsored by GearBest.com)
                    Tronsmart Draco AW80 Meta (2/16GB) - FW v2.0rc3 - (Allwinner A80) (sponsored by GeekBuying.com)
                    Beelink / UBOX R89 - FW 111k4110_1219 - (RK3288) (sponsored by Netxeon (Beelink))

                    RK3188: pcb => "CH001 1332 TN-BX09_V2.1" (K-R42 / CS918...) => wasser KK 1.0.3 (old rev)
                    Fly Mouse Mini Wireless Keyboard with 2 mode learning IR remote 'iPazzPort KP-810-16'

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                      #11
                      Re: Modded Tronsmart Vega Standard - Cooling chapter

                      Originally posted by no_spam_for_me View Post
                      1. ok that's an argument
                      2. I don't know, I don't know if it is a really good idea to transport the head through the box...
                      1. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
                      2. I have the same feeling as you regarding the inverted flow... Heating other chips?

                      I'll test anyways when I have a chance... I have also another project at hand for my box

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                        #12
                        • i wonder if an intel retail boxed cooler could be used there...hmmm

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                          #13
                          Modded Tronsmart Vega Standard - Cooling chapter

                          I order a cooler like this one: http://www.meritline.com/foldable-bi...--p-65179.aspx , I hope it fits my needs, is powered by USB.
                          Last edited by tiguy82; 08 June 2014, 07:03.

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                            #14
                            Any tricks to getting the mobo detached? I felt like some of the connectors were abt to snap on removal from bottom case

                            Sent from my Moto G using Tapatalk

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jimandroidpc View Post
                              Any tricks to getting the mobo detached? I felt like some of the connectors were abt to snap on removal from bottom case

                              Sent from my Moto G using Tapatalk
                              have a look at
                              Tronsmart Vega S89 (Elite) is an Android TV based on Amlogic S802 quad core ARM Cortex A9 processor @ 2GHz, and is one of the fastest Chinese ARM box on


                              and maybe twist a little bit
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                              UGOOS UT3S (4/32GB with fan) - FW 2.0.6 - (RK3288) (sponsored by GearBest.com)
                              Tronsmart Draco AW80 Meta (2/16GB) - FW v2.0rc3 - (Allwinner A80) (sponsored by GeekBuying.com)
                              Beelink / UBOX R89 - FW 111k4110_1219 - (RK3288) (sponsored by Netxeon (Beelink))

                              RK3188: pcb => "CH001 1332 TN-BX09_V2.1" (K-R42 / CS918...) => wasser KK 1.0.3 (old rev)
                              Fly Mouse Mini Wireless Keyboard with 2 mode learning IR remote 'iPazzPort KP-810-16'

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