Well the men you now ask is not those who watch the threads for latest software and instructions were listed in the filrst post of it. I'll repeat: there is no big problem to replace links with yours again, it is just the question that is up to thread watchers and/or moderators and/or forum administrators. Centralised thing there.
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Perfect, this will make it easier when I contact the forum owner about this violation of my personal data and my request to not allow posting of theft links!Originally posted by nomadmax View PostHi Bob.
We have a big misunderstanding here. There were no threatens of any kind. May be it is just a translation difficulties. First of all, unfortunatele, I am not a 4pda owner
. Not an admin or moderator or any of the 4pda officials. Just one of thousands of 4pda forum users. Second. I am totally on your side in this situation. I was one of the users who did not agree with those, who just mirrored results of your work with no credits and no copyrights complied. You can read the topic on 4pda if you want. I was trying to find consensus between You and those of 4pda users, who think that it's better to just share your ROMs and be done with it. So Bob, Your reaction to my plea is a emotional a little to much. 
Really. Sorry for this misunderstanding. As they say - the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Next time i just will keep my thoughts to myself.
Maybe a translation issue but your English is better than most Americans I know. You came accross to me as someone with authority for 4PDA. Still, your post to me saying "I can not stop it" be it a user or owner, is not right. So I do not think there is a misunderstanding!
Bob"Pzebacz im, bo nie wiedzą, co czynią"
"Прости им, они не ведают, что творят"
"Perdona loro perché non sanno quello che fanno"
"Vergib ihnen, denn sie wissen nicht, was sie tun"
"Vergeef hen want ze weten niet wat ze doen"
"Pardonne-leur car ils ne savent pas ce qu'ils font"
"Perdónalos porque no saben que lo que hacen"
"Oprosti im, jer ne znaju što čine"
"Forgive them as they know not what they do"Comment
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Bob
То что я пишу, что не знаю, не означает, что я его не знаю. Я его знаю с переводчиком, но не все люди знают его с переводчиком.
Вы постоянно твердите об воровстве, но что воруется, если файл не изменяется?
Есть ваша прошивка здесь, а так же есть она же не измененная на другом ресурсе, и написано, что автор Вы. В чем воровство?.. И в чем конкретная выгода пользователей, которые перекладывают с одного ресурса на другой, не получая за это ничего?..
Как вариант вы можете снять ограничение и дать возможность скачивать вашу прошивку всем не зарегистрированным пользователям?..
Таким образом те кто захочет сможет пройти и скачать без регистрации, а те кто заинтересованы будут, всегда смогут зарегистрироваться.. Разве не идеальный вариант?Comment
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Итак, позвольте мне помочь вам понять. Вы видите рекламу на 4PDA.RU? Считаете ли Вы, владелец говорится, что форум для забавы? Он пытается сделать некоторые рубля. У меня есть сайт с другом. Мы также хотим в один прекрасный день, чтобы попытаться сделать несколько долларов! Часть делает это означает, что люди приходят сюда, чтобы моя работа. Приехав сюда, означает то же, что и для 4PDA.RU. Итак, давайте перейдем к фактам. Это моя работа. Это мои файлы. Я хочу, чтобы люди приходили сюда и получить их. Если это не имеет смысла сейчас, ничего не будет. Я буду защищать то, что я прошу, если надо. Смысл сейчас?Originally posted by Sergey View Post
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P.S. I do not speak Russian. I use Google translate. Yet I understand you fully! So the excuse of not understanding English is false! If I can understand you in Russian, then the reverse is true!"Pzebacz im, bo nie wiedzą, co czynią"
"Прости им, они не ведают, что творят"
"Perdona loro perché non sanno quello che fanno"
"Vergib ihnen, denn sie wissen nicht, was sie tun"
"Vergeef hen want ze weten niet wat ze doen"
"Pardonne-leur car ils ne savent pas ce qu'ils font"
"Perdónalos porque no saben que lo que hacen"
"Oprosti im, jer ne znaju što čine"
"Forgive them as they know not what they do"Comment
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One more thing to add: we (4pda users) were on the vondroid from the moment it was started. We spoke english, but we were part of community from the start. We appeared ever earlier, before the ONE had a tablet, before Tuen had. Then you came and we came here, we are already part of this place. It is not degrading because of 4pda, reallity is the opposite. You just didn't know the people had a pleace to talk on their language also, had this place all the time, and gathering all actual information there. This forum is actually third of four for us.
And I was on the side of your demands from the start, also, linking to vondroid and here, when new fw arrived.Last edited by Silver_Johnes; 14 August 2012, 15:37.Comment
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Так сами подумайте чем больше ссылок будет на ваш сайт (конкретно на прошивку) пройдя по которой можно будет ее скачать без регистрации. тем больше будет ваш ТИЦ и PR следовательно тем дороже вы сможете продавать свои рекламные места. разве нет?..))Originally posted by Finless View Post
P.S.
Разговорный русский язык и технический - разные вещи..)) И еще раз повторюсь, не все умеют пользоваться переводчиком..))Comment
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Bob, thank You for your compliments to my knowledge of English, it is very pleasantly to hear. I have to post here all our correspondence, so everyone can see, that I have never said that I am a 4pda official and I was representing 4pda users. And may be it will shed light to all translation mistakes, I have maid, not intentionally, of course.Originally posted by Finless View Post
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Originally Posted by nomadmax
Hi Bob. I have posted this message on forum,but looks like unfortunately you haven't seen it.Your roms have a great interest amongst russian users. I have translated your rom flash instruction into russian. And on behalf of 4pda.ru users I am here to ask Your kind permission to mirror Your custom Yuandao roms on 3rd party file share services for those of us, who don't know English and can't register on Freaktab. I'll make sure to give all the credits and links to the original topics and files here. And also me and other 4pda users will make sure, that only actual roms with all latest fixes will be mirrored. Thank You for Your work.
Originally Posted by Finless
I do not mind you linking to my ROMs but I do not really want them on file sharing sites. There should be no reason folks from Russia cannot logon here. We do not block or anything. They are also available on Vondroid.com. I allow Vondroid to host them because they are hosting the file directly and not on a file sharing site.
I personally hate file sharing sites and the advertising they get for hosting other peoples work. Sorry I hope you understand. Thank you for asking! Most people do not.
Bob
Originally Posted by nomadmax
Thanks for your answer. I personally understand your concerns. And I love to go here to read all the information provided and download Your roms from original location. But lets face the facts. There are lots of people , who would not like to register on yet another forum to download something. And those people will mirror your roms anyway.I tried to reason them, but Its pity, I dont have a leverage against their will. So I think, its right place to say: "If you cant stop it - lead it". I mean that the approved post with right information about your forum, links to the original files and mirrors is much better, than nothing in terms of popularisation of your forum. Please reconsider, I think it would be better for both freaktab and 4pda. Thank You very much.
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I have been on 4PDA forum for at least 6 months. Long before I had a N101. So that forum was known to me long before. In fact I have read discussions on there about other ROMs I have done. Arnova, Cube, etc.
I saw links to file sharing for my other ROMs. It was not worth me getting upset about. I am not here to make sure it never happens! I know it will.
However, this time I am being TOLD I have no choice and people on 4PDA will do as they please. This is the part I am upset about! You dishonor me now and almost spit in my face. That is how it feels to me. You expect me to like that?
I an 53 years old. I have many Russian friends here in California. I have a young Russian working for me at my job. He was born is Russia. Everyone of them has been 100% honerable with me all through life. I have great respect for Russian people here because of my experience with those I have met in life. I find Russians very much like Americans. Proud people with great honor and respect for others. I would like to continue to feel that way. So I do not believe my request to not put my ROMs on file sharing sites is too much to honor?
Bob"Pzebacz im, bo nie wiedzą, co czynią"
"Прости им, они не ведают, что творят"
"Perdona loro perché non sanno quello che fanno"
"Vergib ihnen, denn sie wissen nicht, was sie tun"
"Vergeef hen want ze weten niet wat ze doen"
"Pardonne-leur car ils ne savent pas ce qu'ils font"
"Perdónalos porque no saben que lo que hacen"
"Oprosti im, jer ne znaju što čine"
"Forgive them as they know not what they do"Comment
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Why u dont want to do free download from freaktab? Without registration. That would solved the problem with mirrors sites and freaking users that make registration only for downloading. I believe that if someone want to know more about firmwares, last news, he sure registered here and be watching this forum every day.
Also, 4pda dont changing anything at you ROM + in each link posted your nameComment
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without registration, it will use a lot of bandwidth of the hosting company. (used by bots)Originally posted by alunet View PostComment
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Bob, I am really sorry. Looks like my attempt to make it right this time and to honor your job as it deserves but also reason the situation with internet reality have lead us to this misunderstanding. I cant say anything more, than Im sorry. I personally have never shared your job othere than linking it to freaktab, so this is all, I could do in the situation.Comment
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how about securities code or else methods of defence from bot or maybe dropbox/php server?without registration, it will use a lot of bandwidth of the hosting company. (used by bots)Comment
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Нет, мы сделать по-другому. Мы делаем это так у нас нет спама пользователям объявления от Google или в других местах. Мы проводим очень успешный форум уже. www.helifreak.com. Он имеет гораздо больше пользователей, чем 4pda. Более 160000.Объявления только на рекламодателей, которые продают и есть интерес непосредственно в бизнесе. Мы также не позволит кому-нибудь для рекламы! Они должны быть надежными и хорошие рабочие отношения! Так что не Google, спам и т.д. вид рекламы. Это очень отличается от 4pda или большинство любой другой форум, и как он работает это бизнес. Итак, мы знаем, что мы делаем и как им управлять. То есть, как мы работаем и я думаю, мы добьемся успеха без пользователи ненавидят, как реклама, то сделано. Так что же вы спрашиваете, на мой взгляд грязный способ. Вы видите, у нас нет рекламы здесь еще? И если мы делаем, это будет изящная не обычное дерьмо, как и везде. Поэтому не стоит. Я не согласен с идеей о том, как лучше всего выполнить это место. Речь идет не только о веб-хитов.Originally posted by Sergey View Post
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P.S. Если здесь, в интернете и на этом форуме или 4pda, то у вас есть доступ к Google Translate. Ваше заявление о том, что это глупый разговор"Pzebacz im, bo nie wiedzą, co czynią"
"Прости им, они не ведают, что творят"
"Perdona loro perché non sanno quello che fanno"
"Vergib ihnen, denn sie wissen nicht, was sie tun"
"Vergeef hen want ze weten niet wat ze doen"
"Pardonne-leur car ils ne savent pas ce qu'ils font"
"Perdónalos porque no saben que lo que hacen"
"Oprosti im, jer ne znaju što čine"
"Forgive them as they know not what they do"Comment
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security code can be easily sharedOriginally posted by alunet View Post
dropbox max 10GB a day for bandwidth + you have limited space (free accounts)
php server ==> same as hosting..Comment
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