Hannspree version on sale in the UK

[noggin]

Looks as if Hannspree branded models have arrived in the UK. Eclipse are selling them with Windows 8.1 for £120 inc VAT.

http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/prod...e=SYH-SNNPDI1B Not cheap...

[blinkone]

Looks as if Hannspree branded models have arrived in the UK. Eclipse are selling them with Windows 8.1 for £120 inc VAT.

http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/prod...e=SYH-SNNPDI1B Not cheap...

Good find noggin,But like you say a little expensive,The pipo x7 beats this by far.

[noggin]

Good find noggin,But like you say a little expensive,The pipo x7 beats this by far.

Yep - if you don't need the form factor, then the Pipo definitely looks a better bet (cheaper, Ethernet, 4xUSB2.0) - though the Meegopad has 2.4 & 5GHz WiFi apparently, whereas the X7 is 2.4GHz only.

The X7 appears to be more consistently supplied with activated Win 8.1 with Bing and includes Office 365 for a year - though if Pipo are using tablet licences this may not last forever...

[neomode]

This thing where Tested by c´t a German Computer News Paper.
The Testing of this where not relay good, also the Stick has a Heat Problem.

Regards
Neomode

[noggin]

Do we think the Hannspree has different construction to the Meegopad? I suspect the results would be the same... I can't imagine the heat dissipation in any of these devices is going to be great. I wouldn't be running WinPrime on them...

[neomode]

Here is the Translatet Articel:

The idea of turning an ordinary TV with an HDMI Stick into a full-fledged PC, sounds tempting: With Windows 8.1 (or Linux) can he more than smart TVs or Android sticks. How well this works in practice is shown by the Hannspree SNNPDI1B-R8Q01 in the c't laboratory.


The mini PC Hanspree SNNPDI1B-R8Q01 is connected via HDMI to a TV.
The mini PC Hanspree SNNPDI1B-R8Q01 is connected via HDMI to a TV. enlarge
The Taiwanese company Hanspree builds in the 10 cm × 3.7 cm × 0.5 cm housing of the Micro PC-SNNPDI1B R8Q01 a quad-core processor from Intel's Bay Trail family for tablets. The atomic clocks Z3735F nominally 1.33 GHz. Per Turbo Boost up to 1.83 GHz were even there, in the c't laboratory we have never, however, such a high clock observed.


Ausgebremst
The case gets hot under load while only 51 ° C, but the clock frequency drops from 1.3 to below 0.1 GHz.
The case gets hot under load while only 51 ° C, but the clock frequency drops from 1.3 to below 0.1 GHz. Enlarge At full load on all cores can be no question of turbo anyway. Then it creates the mite not even to keep the nominal clock for a long time. After a few minutes full load with Prime95, it can reduce to 500 MHz. If, with Furmark simultaneously nor the graphics unit under steam, the clock frequency is reduced even below 100 MHz. In both cases, the primary side power leveled by the safeguard measure on an approximately 3.8 watts. Less converter losses and the need of RAM, Flash, and interface controllers coincides with the approximately 2.2 watts, which indicates Intel as "Scenario Design Power" for the atom Z3735F.


66 MHz CPU clock at full load show how hopelessly overwhelmed the cooling system.
66 MHz CPU clock after a longer full load show how hopelessly overwhelmed the cooling system is then. Click to enlarge More heat can not dissipate apparently the plastic case without active cooling permanently. As long as the PC is cold, peak values of 5.3 (Prime95) respectively 10.3 Watt (full load) were observed. At idle, the stick-PC with 2.1 watts is pleasant sparingly. When you turn Wi-Fi and Bluetooth off and jammed from mouse and keyboard, even 1.4 watts in it.


In Cinebench of "Micro-PC" reached 0.24 (single) respectively 0.75 points (multi-thread) and is thus theoretically at about the same level of price competition netbooks with tablet processor. In practice, however, already run 720p videos not completely smooth. Full HD movies from Youtube stutter unbearable. The power consumption is then the way with 6 watts far beyond what can dissipate the noise cooling system reliably.


Although the plastic housing with 51 ° C is not excessively hot, shows the thermal imaging camera as trap heat inside. The CPU core temperature climbed by the way, to approximately 90 ° C.


Only the bare necessities
Expansion ports are in short supply at the HDMI Stick PC.
Expansion ports are in short supply at the HDMI Stick PC. Enlarge The equipment is lean: 2 GB RAM may be enough for web surfing, but for the parallel operation of several modern applications too little. With installed Windows Me from the 32 GB of flash memory just 20 for videos, pictures and applications free.


In addition, the eMMC memory when reading with 167 MByte / s is faster than a magnetic 2.5-inch hard drive writes data but only with 46 MByte / s. Can be retrofitted with MicroSD cards or external drives.


However, the then compete with mouse, keyboard and other peripherals to the single USB 2.0 port - the much faster USB 3.0 is missing. The only micro-USB connector is reserved for the power supply. After all, one can resort to the mouse and keyboard Bluetooth 4.0. Caught in the Net, it is only via Wi-Fi (802.11n), an Ethernet jack, there is not - and could be retrofitted in turn only via USB.


Audio delivers the PC exclusively via HDMI to the TV, analog headphone output is just as rare as a microphone input. Who partout want to connect a headset must do via Bluetooth or use a USB sound cards.


Turnübung: Switch
Who rams the tiny directly into the HDMI socket, must hold to turn on the TV behind and feel for a tiny button.
Who rams the tiny directly into the HDMI socket, must hold to turn behind the TV and sensing a tiny button. Enlarge The tiny power button on the side is difficult to access, especially if you have the stick directly, without the included 20 cm long HDMI cable plugged into a rear jack of a TV or monitor. Even more annoying is that the pre-installed, almost free freemium anti-Chromebook Windows refuses all standby modes. So you can not even send the PC sleep and wake keyboard when needed.


Apparently, not only did the system-on-chip from a tablet platform, but also the UEFI firmware from InsydeH2O. Some Windows 8 tablets use the Connected Standby mode S0ix (in Microsoft parlance Instant Go) and not ACPI S3 or S4 as desktop PCs. But exactly which actually would need a PC that trapped behind a TV.


Because the 32-bit UEFI, the CSM is missing, there is no BIOS Compatibility: This makes it difficult to install other operating systems. After all, can be switched off Secure Boot. Is pre-installed Windows 8.1 with Bing in the 32-bit version - in theory, the atomic Z3735F and 64 bit, but not with a 32-bit UEFI BIOS.


Conclusion
The size of the 190-euro HDMI Sticks impress - after all, lies a Windows 8 PC in it. Overall, however, we could not convince the tiny because it messes with the most important task - playing HD videos - and you have to do gymnastics behind the TV to switch on.


With a low active cooling system, more USB ports and especially any that are better adapted to the application firmware such an HDMI Stick would, however, the potential to cut out so many smart function of TVs. This assessment should also true for the presumably identical Windows 8 PC, HDMI-stick format MeeGo Meego-pad M1 aka T01 Shenzhen TDS Electronic Technology apply. Both are ultimately made by Quanta, there's the product NH1. (bbe)

Copyright 2015 c´t Magazin

[noggin]

Yep - read the article in German and Google Translate (my German is average).

My gut feeling is that they are the same design - so we may have issues if we hammer our CPUs. Be interesting to see.

Looking at the Pipo X7 there is a heat pad, but apparently this doesn't really make contact with the aluminium case, and instead hits a plastic mounting bracket.

Wonder how hot these guys run and whether they all self-throttle.

I have an X7 and a Meegopad on order - will see how they fair with a laser thermometer...