Problem with streaming from Netflix and more in general also with Youtube

[no_spam_for_me]

Core temp doesn't work correctly...

[scropion86]

Hi and thank you sincerely again
Still i have to say again that before enabling GFX boosting and reserving 256 MB for the video the unit was useless with Netflix, now especially with wired connection is almost perfect.
Nevertheless i will try again to disable GFX boosting and see.
Last thing i want is to fry this thing.

you change it as many already done , so keep it because you already said device perform well after that

very very interesting and welcome feature indeed ! do you know if it is possible to decrease the 90 C value ?
I have to add one thing. I have installed Core Temp and i see that the cores' T tend to stabilize around 35 C. I have also set a shutdown point at 60 C of core temperatures. The unit should go to sleep if any core reaches this T i assume.
But as i say after 2-3 hours of Netflix streaming the temperatures for all cores stay below 35 C.Assuming that this Core Temp program works rightly of course.
Anyway i am thinking seriously about the heatsink mods. I will do that soon.

yest you can change it but i never tried to change any thing in bios settings , so if you want do it on your own risk

I see and agree with you completely. Maybe Core Temp is not working properly because i am quite distant from this level of T.
I will try to reduce the T limit for shutdown to 60 C in the bios, if possible, and see what will happen.
Do you know if this is possible ?
Maybe i have found a cold unit ?

Thank you so much again.

is the Core temp is accurate or not ? i have no idea but Intel make it not Pipo so it should be trusted

yes it's possible . if you set the it to shutdown and power off on 60 C your device will work maximum for 15 minutes if idle

yes try to do something to modd your device to get lower temp is a good thing to do

[geppetto61]

Core temp doesn't work correctly...

Arrghhh .... i knew that !

Thanks a lot indeed for for the very precious help ! I was wondering that and you give me the confirmation.
What is the most reliable way to monitor the cores' Ts then ?

Moreover, as i do not think that reserving RAM for the video alters the T of the cores, i guess that instead GFX enabling put more stress on the cpu.
I have also changed some settings in the power menu.
Is there a way to get back to default settings ?

Thanks a lot again.

[scropion86]

Core temp doesn't work correctly...

if not , which temp should we depend on it , to prevent the CPU from get fried

any body have Arduino and temp Sensor can attach the sensor to the CPU directly
and get the temp reading and compare it with Core Temp

[geppetto61]

... if you set the it to shutdown and power off on 60 C your device will work maximum for 15 minutes if idle
yes try to do something to modd your device to get lower temp is a good thing to do

Hi and thanks a lot for the very helpful advice. I am learning this unit and i am very ignorant.
I am extremely intrigued by it and scared at the same time ...
Now it is set already at 60 C and i am using it without experiencing any shutdown at all.
Best bet is that Core Temp is not reliable because i am getting too low Ts for all the 4 cores (i.e. around 35 C).
So at this point i am looking for a reliable way to monitor these cores Ts.
Thanks again.

[f1c]

Aida64 seems to get accurate temps.
The BIOS is set up to throttle the CPU at 90°C and shut down at 100°C. The former value you can in theory adjust but I do not recommend anyone to do so because who knows if your unit will still boot. This is not a concern about your CPU getting fried or anything but the BIOS being pretty unreliable.

Intel's CPUs are pretty smart in so far that overheating them to dangerous levels is nearly impossible since they will throttle and/or reboot your PC on their own.

There is another way to test CPU temps: Get a program like CPU-Z or use Aida64 and run some stress tests. If at one point the CPU drops below 1.33 GHz it is being throttled and you need better cooling. If not, all is fine.

[geppetto61]

Aida64 seems to get accurate temps.

Thanks a lot ! i was getting crazy about this monitoring SW issue.
I will try it this evening for sure.
At the work they still do not use Pipos ... i dont know why

The BIOS is set up to throttle the CPU at 90°C and shut down at 100°C. The former value you can in theory adjust but I do not recommend anyone to do so because who knows if your unit will still boot.
This is not a concern about your CPU getting fried or anything but the BIOS being pretty unreliable.
Intel's CPUs are pretty smart in so far that overheating them to dangerous levels is nearly impossible since they will throttle and/or reboot your PC on their own.

This is a very good news and in some ways i was expecting this. At Intel they know what they do, even if 90 C seem quite high t ... anyway good that they have put up some measures to guarantee to operate the device in its SOA.
Anyway a prolonged use at high T is not good for the cpu i guess. The lifetime usually drops with higher working Ts.

There is another way to test CPU temps: Get a program like CPU-Z or use Aida64 and run some stress tests. If at one point the CPU drops below 1.33 GHz it is being throttled and you need better cooling. If not, all is fine

Thanks for the info but i think that if a reliable realtime monitoring SW is available everything is simpler.
Thanks again.

[geppetto61]

Hi i am quite happy to report than now even with GPX boost off the streaming from Netflix is fine.
I think it was just a matter of reserving more memory for video (now i selected 256 MB).
Maybe it is used for video buffering i do not know, but it works !
Thanks a lot Mr. Scooby.Doo ! very kind and valuable advice indeed.

Youtube videos with Chrome instead are very bad indeed.
Strange.

[twig]

I made a few discoveries too. The main one was that the cooling solution on Pipo X7 is a disaster. Exactly like reported by other users. My CPU was operating near the maximum temperature threshold most of the time and usually at 80°C when watching youtube. I decided to tear the thing apart and try to play with the old parts - I found an old heatsink, glued it down with 3M's double sided thermal tape and it now runs at 40°C in idle and around 70°C when playing 1080p youtube VP9 videos via Chrome/Opera. FullHD is good enough and it's aeons better than it was. 720p is peachy, event at 60fps.

Still, IE runs circles around chrome based browsers, especially when Youtube is concerned (almost idle like temperatures), but it's not very usable as a day to day browser.

I am planning to make some less ghetto solution next time, but it's been promising so far and I no longer hate my Pipo X7.

[geppetto61]

I made a few discoveries too. The main one was that the cooling solution on Pipo X7 is a disaster. Exactly like reported by other users. My CPU was operating near the maximum temperature threshold most of the time and usually at 80°C when watching youtube. I decided to tear the thing apart and try to play with the old parts - I found an old heatsink, glued it down with 3M's double sided thermal tape and it now runs at 40°C in idle and around 70°C when playing 1080p youtube VP9 videos via Chrome/Opera. FullHD is good enough and it's aeons better than it was. 720p is peachy, event at 60fps

Hi and thanks a lot indeed for the very valuable advice.
I am using a free sw to monitor Temperatures and it is not reliable because the values are too low. What SW do you use to check cores' Ts ?

Still, IE runs circles around chrome based browsers, especially when Youtube is concerned (almost idle like temperatures), but it's not very usable as a day to day browser.
I am planning to make some less ghetto solution next time, but it's been promising so far and I no longer hate my Pipo X7.

Very very helpful. Thanks again ! 1st thing this evening i will try IE for sure.
I will use it for watching youtube
With 256 MB reserved for video and GFX enabled the outcome is not very nice. And now that you say about the thermal issue i see that after a while things get even worse.
No problem ... i will use IE for that use and Chrome for any other task.
Thanks again !!!!