openelec for MXIII-G (amlogic S812) ?

[MinixCrazy]

Howdy All,

Updated build based on Kszac's OE 5.95.5.2 build:

http://5.189.137.29/Openelec/MX3G/kszaq/OpenELEC-Amlogic.MX3G.arm-5.95.5.2b.zip

http://5.189.137.29/Openelec/MX3G/kszaq/OpenELEC-Amlogic.MX3G.arm-5.95.5.2b.tar

Note:
1. Still kodi 15.1
2. Bluetooth fixed (well turns on/finds devices)
3. *Should* be more compatible with Kamak's original MX3G port

I noticed that RealJohnGalt has updated kszac's build to OE6, so rather than backport kodi 15.2, I will rebase my builds on this.

I have been looking at the various bootloaders for this device, & it seems that we are pretty much stuck with the original android 4.4.2/316k4 version, as the newer ones from LP all cause lockup's with media playback in kodi (both 15.1 & 15.2) - Ironically I can still ssh into the box, it's just the display/remote become unresponsive (no errors logged, fo course)

This build still seems more stable than my previous 6.0.0.2b release to me, but as others have reported here, ymmv.

Enjoy!

I tried this and the 5G works well not sure what the difference is but just wanted you to know... Would it have anything to my settings being static IP as I run alternate DNS with UnoTelly for NFL GamePass support?

Also 5.95.5.2b does run about 10-15f cooler than 6.0.0.2b and my temps now stay below 120f so I can see the difference you have experenced with CPU control as well.

Thanks again for the support, do you have a PayPal link?

Frank

[wilro_6276]

I used kszaq's MXQ build 5.95.5, and later an improvement from kszaq thread... 6.0.0.

With mxIII-G the screen blanking problem is periodic.. Sometimes more, sometimes less. But it can happen at GUI (1080 50p), at video playing, menu browsing, etc. Maybe timing problem?
I have LG 55UB820V UHD TV, and Onkyo ht-r548 avr. But i try with avr and without avr too.
I have LG 60pa660s plasma, i try tonight too.

Ok, While I've been concentrating on Kszaq's 5.95.5.2 for my port, I have also done a quick build based on RealJohnGalt's 6.0.0 tree as well - I have a few more issues I want to resolve in kszaq's tree before moving to a mostly 6.0.0 base (There are a few packages I intend to bring in from kerber's tree that I find useful that kszaq's lack at the moment

Does your avr run through hdmi or spdif? I've noticed a sporadic noise burst via the hdmi port, mostly when idle/menu nav. I can imagine an avr/some TV's connected via hdmi may glitch due to this. (My TV's don't seem to mind, but then I also hear this occasionally from the MXQ as well, just far less often

[envagyok]

I used kszaq's MXQ build 5.95.5, and later an improvement from kszaq thread... 6.0.0.

With mxIII-G the screen blanking problem is periodic.. Sometimes more, sometimes less. But it can happen at GUI (1080 50p), at video playing, menu browsing, etc. Maybe timing problem?
I have LG 55UB820V UHD TV, and Onkyo ht-r548 avr. But i try with avr and without avr too.
I have LG 60pa660s plasma, i try tonight too.

[wilro_6276]

-The hdmi cable I used with mxq too without problems
- I use tvheadend client with lan ethernet cable access, server is wetek play with dual dvb-s2, and Hungarian upc channels at 1w. With the same settings mxq and rpi2 plays fluidly this TV channels
-I configured kodi to play video with video's frame rate, it plays 24 fps video at 24p, 25 and 50 fps video at 50p, 30 and 60 fps video at 60p
Maybe this problems regard to 4K?
I use 1080 50p gui, my TV uhd but avr not.

I observed sd channels (interlaced) deinterlacing quality is very poor, when I leave deinterlacing mode in automatic. The bob hw deinterlacing quality is bad, when I set to software deinterlacing, then better. I think something wrong with hq deinterlacing.
I find this site:http://linux-meson.com/doku.php
Maybe problem with old kernel, or amlogic?

Yes, your cable should be OK - I just tend to label mine & use them purely with the box they are supplied with, regardless
I suspect that the tvheadend client is causing the problems with the broadcast streaming from your wetek - Put simply, the mxq/pi2 are more widely used than the S812 based boxes (like the MX3G) - This could simply be a matter of recompiling/optimising the client for the S812 chipset, or it needs some patching to address quirks in the MX3G/S812.

Spent a bit of time testing adjusting/or fixed frame rate's, & found overall using a fixed rate worked best on my MX3G/MXQ (This could just be a quirk with my older samsung TV's), regardless, I don't think this is the cause of the issues.

Now, the de-interlacing is a different issue - I noticed that one of the kodi patches disables all hardware decoding for all resolutions < 800p, stating poor quality issues - This could indeed be related to the hardware de-interlacing - As most interlaced content is DVD. I also noticed that in the newer kernels, there is an option to only enable hardware de-interlacing for SD content (Though I suspect this is an efficiency issue, more than due to hardware problems).

What version of OE are you running on your MXQ? Kerber's builds run a fairly up to date linux kernel, whereas Kszaq's runs on a slightly older one, but works extremely well for the mxq/mk808b+/hd18q based boxes - This is another reason why I backported support to this kernel for the MX3G.

I will be releasing 6.0.0.2c shortly, which brings my build back in line with kerber's mainline.

[envagyok]

Hmmm... OK, I'm going to have a closer look at the differences between kerber's & my patches, as there is clearly something different in mine that affects the 1G models. I've only seen the "black blanking" issue when using the non-supplied hdmi cable on the MX3G, or when trying to use certain kodi plugins. You mention livetv, how are you playing this on the MX3G? Are you using wireless/lan based connectivity? I don't have any content > 25fps, but I do have a lot of interlaced stuff that plays flawlessly at lesser framerates - Have you configured kodi to adjust it's framerate to match content source, or is it fixed? (Mine it fixed to output at 1080p/60hz, regardless of source) - I'll have to source some 50i content to further test this problem...

Agreed, the MXQ/HD18Q/MK808b/pi2/etc have much better OE support at this stage - As we are still using the Mali450mp graphics on the MX3G, I'm surprised that at least the graphics are not the same/better than these older/slower devices Seems I have a lot more fiddling/testing to do...

-The hdmi cable I used with mxq too without problems
- I use tvheadend client with lan ethernet cable access, server is wetek play with dual dvb-s2, and Hungarian upc channels at 1w. With the same settings mxq and rpi2 plays fluidly this TV channels
-I configured kodi to play video with video's frame rate, it plays 24 fps video at 24p, 25 and 50 fps video at 50p, 30 and 60 fps video at 60p
Maybe this problems regard to 4K?
I use 1080 50p gui, my TV uhd but avr not.

I observed sd channels (interlaced) deinterlacing quality is very poor, when I leave deinterlacing mode in automatic. The bob hw deinterlacing quality is bad, when I set to software deinterlacing, then better. I think something wrong with hq deinterlacing.
I find this site:http://linux-meson.com/doku.php
Maybe problem with old kernel, or amlogic?

[wilro_6276]

5.95.5.2b isnt working
5.95.5.7 working, but with the same problems as amlinux.ru mx3g 6.0.0. image. When i turn on, it boot to gui, and the screen 1-2 times/minute make 1-2frame black blanking (it not always make, just sometimes), and livetv 1440*1080 50i played 25 fps (screen is 50fps, but jerky) bad quality. When the same channel i see from record, then play good 50fps.
Deinterlacing quality is bad too, sometimes at fast movings i see at the top right quarter of screen the video is a frame late.
Maybe the device has factory failure?

I have a beelink mxq and raspberry pi2 with openelec, this two device isnt produce this symptoms.

Hmmm... OK, I'm going to have a closer look at the differences between kerber's & my patches, as there is clearly something different in mine that affects the 1G models. I've only seen the "black blanking" issue when using the non-supplied hdmi cable on the MX3G, or when trying to use certain kodi plugins. You mention livetv, how are you playing this on the MX3G? Are you using wireless/lan based connectivity? I don't have any content > 25fps, but I do have a lot of interlaced stuff that plays flawlessly at lesser framerates - Have you configured kodi to adjust it's framerate to match content source, or is it fixed? (Mine it fixed to output at 1080p/60hz, regardless of source) - I'll have to source some 50i content to further test this problem...

Agreed, the MXQ/HD18Q/MK808b/pi2/etc have much better OE support at this stage - As we are still using the Mali450mp graphics on the MX3G, I'm surprised that at least the graphics are not the same/better than these older/slower devices Seems I have a lot more fiddling/testing to do...

[envagyok]

5.95.5.2b isnt working
5.95.5.7 working, but with the same problems as amlinux.ru mx3g 6.0.0. image. When i turn on, it boot to gui, and the screen 1-2 times/minute make 1-2frame black blanking (it not always make, just sometimes), and livetv 1440*1080 50i played 25 fps (screen is 50fps, but jerky) bad quality. When the same channel i see from record, then play good 50fps.
Deinterlacing quality is bad too, sometimes at fast movings i see at the top right quarter of screen the video is a frame late.
Maybe the device has factory failure?

I have a beelink mxq and raspberry pi2 with openelec, this two device isnt produce this symptoms.

[wilro_6276]

With 6.0.0.2.b and kszaq 5.95.5.2a after flash to nand isnt boot, just blank screen.
I make photo from pcb front and back, i post it.
With amlinux.ru 6.0.0 MX3G version working, but bad deinterlacing quality has, and sometimes video playing with jerky picture.

Nextxeon MXIII-G V2.0 S812/1G/8G/AP6181 (M82G_V1.0_20150324
NAND : EMMC 4.51 : foresee NCEFES78-08
Gigabit lan : Pulse H5007NL
WIFI AP6181

Hi envagyok,

Thanks for the detailed breakdown - Could you try the latest build:

http://5.189.137.29/Openelec/MX3G/kszaq/OpenELEC-Amlogic.MX3G.arm-5.95.5.2b.zip

or failing that:

http://5.189.137.29/Openelec/MX3G/OpenELEC-Amlogic.arm-MX3G-5.95.5.7.zip

(This build was released just before kerber's build, but includes a number of patches for Kodi amongst other things)

Thanks!

[envagyok]

Hello envagyok,

Could you clarify the problem? Does the unit boot? Is the wi-fi/lan not working? I don't have the 1G model, so I need as much information as possible to try & isolate any problems specific to it.

Thanks!

With 6.0.0.2.b and kszaq 5.95.5.2a after flash to nand isnt boot, just blank screen.
I make photo from pcb front and back, i post it.
With amlinux.ru 6.0.0 MX3G version working, but bad deinterlacing quality has, and sometimes video playing with jerky picture.

Nextxeon MXIII-G V2.0 S812/1G/8G/AP6181 (M82G_V1.0_20150324
NAND : EMMC 4.51 : foresee NCEFES78-08
Gigabit lan : Pulse H5007NL
WIFI AP6181

[wilro_6276]

Howdy All,

Updated build based on Kszac's OE 5.95.5.2 build:

http://5.189.137.29/Openelec/MX3G/kszaq/OpenELEC-Amlogic.MX3G.arm-5.95.5.2b.zip

http://5.189.137.29/Openelec/MX3G/kszaq/OpenELEC-Amlogic.MX3G.arm-5.95.5.2b.tar

Note:
1. Still kodi 15.1
2. Bluetooth fixed (well turns on/finds devices)
3. *Should* be more compatible with Kamak's original MX3G port

I noticed that RealJohnGalt has updated kszac's build to OE6, so rather than backport kodi 15.2, I will rebase my builds on this.

I have been looking at the various bootloaders for this device, & it seems that we are pretty much stuck with the original android 4.4.2/316k4 version, as the newer ones from LP all cause lockup's with media playback in kodi (both 15.1 & 15.2) - Ironically I can still ssh into the box, it's just the display/remote become unresponsive (no errors logged, fo course)

This build still seems more stable than my previous 6.0.0.2b release to me, but as others have reported here, ymmv.

Enjoy!

[wilro_6276]

I have MX III G 1GB/8GB 2.4g wifi, and i try both 6.0.0.2.b an dkszaq 5.95.5.2a version too, but isnt working for me.
The amlinux.ru 6.0.0.0 working, but some tearing see it.
What is the problem?

Hello envagyok,

Could you clarify the problem? Does the unit boot? Is the wi-fi/lan not working? I don't have the 1G model, so I need as much information as possible to try & isolate any problems specific to it.

Thanks!

[stannoplan]

Is it possible to load the files on a usb drive and do it that way or does it have to be a sd card

i believe you can but never tried it, it wont do the recovery if it cant find the files, so it should be ok.

there also is a USB Flash/burning tool which is an app used to flash image files whilst connected to your pc/laptop via OTG port (USB) but i would research that first..

[wilro_6276]

Wilro thanks for the continued effort...

I'm back to your version OE6 as the last build posted didn't work well for me. I had very slow 5G WiFi performance. Version 6 works very well...

PS I have no heat issues with version 6. I've upgraded the thermal tape inside the box and my temps never get above 130f. I would suggest everyone remove the cover and replace the tape with 5mm thermal tape covering the entire heat sink area under the PCB.

Hmmm.. this is strange - My 5G appears to work better with the older kernel (I didn't speed test it, I just used it to watch some shows

Thanks for the tip on replacing the thermal tape - Never even considered such a simple fix

[wilro_6276]

Hello ! I installed Kszaq on my old Mk808b Plus, too, was going to try last OE6 on Mxq S85, too, but always from SDCArd ! I see only .zip and .tar files up there, is the possibility that I can try an .img on my spare MXIII - G on Sdcard, too ? One question, I do not need to worry about boot image, or other problems as on MxIII G I have last OTA update Stock Android FW working ?
Thanks a lot for Your work WILRO !

Unfortunately, we lack the source code for the MX3G's bootloader (u-boot), so this is not currently possible - The source code for the Mk808b's bootloader was released by the manufacturer a while ago, allowing kszaq the ability to modify it slightly to enable dual-boot (The MXQ + HD18Q's boot loaders are very similar, which is why it also works for them) - I am hopeful that the same will be possible for the MX3G in the not too distant future - I plan on investigating this further in the future, but at the moment, I figured it was worth being prepared for it if it does eventuate

[Bigredfan]

Is it possible to load the files on a usb drive and do it that way or does it have to be a sd card