Beelink Mini MX S905 vs S805 vs RK3368

[Lurker]

The MX Plus (very similar to Tronsmart Vega S95 Pro) and Inphic SPOT i7 appear to be two of the cheaper eMMC based models.

http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_269239.html

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Inphic-Spot-i7-Android-TV-Box-Amlogic-S905-with-KODI-Fully-loaded-Quad-core-Android-4/32549747464.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.2.lafZkL&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_1_79_78_77_80,searchweb201644_0,searchweb201560_9

[TheLegendOfMart]

It's fast enough for me and I get frustrated with slow boxes, for $9 extra I probably would have gone for one of the eMMC ones but this was the only S905 available in the UK when I bought it.

[Lurker]

Beelink usually have some of the best firmware. I must say that some of the other companies seem to be really stepping up. If the MX Plus includes Vidon XBMC (DTS-HD, True HD, 3D BDMV, ISO etc.) like Tronsmart does then it could do very well.

[Inphic]

MINI MX is not eMMC?

[Lurker]

@Inphic: They appear to be using a FORESEE NCEFAT28-08G device. In their ad they mention Nand flash not eMMC.

http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/11/23/mini-mx-4k-android-media-player-unboxing-and-teardown/

Mini MX advert (second last bullet under main features)

http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_258635.html

What kind of Antutu score do you get from the SPOT i7? Most of the boxes seem to score around 29000 but the Tronsmart appears to be much higher at 36000.

[Inphic]

What kind of Antutu score do you get from the SPOT i7? Most of the boxes seem to score around 29000 but the Tronsmart appears to be much higher at 36000.

Antutu version?

I can test Inphic i7 and MQ Plus (same motherboard than Tronsmart S95).

[Inphic]

FORESEE is making a kind of.... tSD (NAND with eMMC controller with NAND body) and efSD (NAND with eMMC controller with eMMC body). This question is a little deep in hardware.

@Inphic: They appear to be using a FORESEE NCEFAT28-08G device. In their ad they mention Nand flash not eMMC.
http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/11/...-and-teardown/

Mini MX advert (second last bullet under main features)

http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_258635.html

If check MINI MX description from geekbuying they say eMMC. Maybe at begining they was not sure what memory want to use and just released a wrong specification. Or they also had problems with eMMC (we also had some while developing). Or they plan to replace the eMMC later to be NAND... (this option can be possible, but no sense now to say that).

I think jean-luc (CNX) said "NAND? Flash" because gearbest description is "NAND" but its package is "eMMC"

[Lurker]

Antutu v.6.0 Beta 5.

Tronsmart score ~36000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZm1sGg1rbM

[RISCy Dude]

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What kind of Antutu score do you get from the SPOT i7? Most of the boxes seem to score around 29000 but the Tronsmart appears to be much higher at 36000.

I wonder which version of the Tronsmart S95 the AnTuTu score represents, as there are 1GB and 2GB variants. This might be a factor in the difference. But I am just speculating.

[Lurker]

@RISCy Dude: That's a good point. Maybe Antutu ver. 6 is also giving higher scores than 5...

@inphic: Your advert on Aliexpress also mentions Nand flash being used on the Mini MX. Is this incorrect?
Inphic SPOT i7 is a powerful Android TV Box. It mounts an Amlogic S90564-bits with 4K resolution and eMMC memory module that allow us to perform better than others as MXQ Pro or MINI MX (both slow NAND Flash).

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Inphi...208.3.1.dy97yJ

EDIT: The Antutu score is for the 2G/16GB Telos

[Inphic]

@RISCy Dude: That's a good point. Maybe Antutu ver. 6 is also giving higher scores than 5...

@inphic: Your advert on Aliexpress also mentions Nand flash being used on the Mini MX. Is this incorrect?
Inphic SPOT i7 is a powerful Android TV Box. It mounts an Amlogic S90564-bits with 4K resolution and eMMC memory module that allow us to perform better than others as MXQ Pro or MINI MX (both slow NAND Flash).

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Inphi...208.3.1.dy97yJ

EDIT: The Antutu score is for the 2G/16GB Telos

Do you know why happened that?

When our guys checked these boxes their description was NAND Flash, but now it seems like they changed to eMMC.

OK, I will try to get info from this memory... then look a little deep inside

[Lurker]

Many thanks inphic. I hope you can resolve this issue for us. It appears that you are correct - this SKHynix Nand flash has pins on the side while the Foresee one has them underneath.

http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/11/17/videostrong-k1-plus-amlogic-s905-android-tv-box-unboxing-and-teardown/

[Inphic]

Many thanks inphic. I hope you can resolve this issue for us. It appears that you are correct - this SKHynix Nand flash has pins on the side while the Foresee one has them underneath.
http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/11/...-and-teardown/

That SKHynix is clearly a NAND package. But FORESEE is making something like "hybrids". They use NAND with eMMC controller and can be found in NAND package and eMMC package with also different specifications. It does not mean is bad, just different.

[Lurker]

OK so not so straightforward. What is most interesting though is whether the type of eMMC (Foresee, Samsung etc.) makes much difference to the performance i.e. in benchmarks like Antutu etc.

[Inphic]

Antutu 5.7.1

Sunchip motherboard (MX Plus, Tronsmart S95) - Called "A8" in Antutu. 1GB/8GB




Inphic SPOT i7 - 1GB/8GB



Good news for Inphic's family


Anyway... Antutu is not a reason to buy a TV Box

I am trying to use Antutu 6.0 but I am getting problems with the VPN downloading the Antutu 3D required...



Talking about the eMMC, I runned some benchmarks with very different results every time. Maybe the only think a little clear is the Sunchip board (samsung) is faster reading and Foresee is faster writing.