Netflix horrible quality on s89

[clarkss12]

nothing to do with isp I can tell you now

1. quality is perfect on apple tv box and western digital box and also on pc via website Netflix no blotihness or buffering on the highest setting of 3.5g an hour

now these boxes I'm sure they are lesser spec's than the s89 or m8 etc, so it either the decoding or network buffer tcps etc or the way it get decoded

my speed to the US servers are around 2 - 2.5 Mbits

So it the s89 or m8 square issue weather it due to licencing or codec or weather the buffer cache needs to be adjusted

JustMe

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[Finless]

I wish I could explain this..... But I have used Netflix at least 10 times since I got this box. Perfect for me with NO ISSUES! AND YES... over Wifi!

So there is something going on here and it is not the box!

Sorry to tell you all this but something else is causing your problems. I wish I knew the answer but seriously guys, it works for me! I am not sure what APK's your installing and what else you pile on your device but I have a feeling THIS is the variable.... Remember bandwidth burned by APPs that use notification services, etc, can cause issues....

Bob

[clarkss12]

I wish I could explain this..... But I have used Netflix at least 10 times since I got this box. Perfect for me with NO ISSUES! AND YES... over Wifi!

So there is something going on here and it is not the box!

Sorry to tell you all this but something else is causing your problems. I wish I knew the answer but seriously guys, it works for me! I am not sure what APK's your installing and what else you pile on your device but I have a feeling THIS is the variable.... Remember bandwidth burned by APPs that use notification services, etc, can cause issues....

Bob

I keep trying to understand it myself. All my other boxes work great, and I have swapped hardware. No matter what ROM I use, same problem, this is with the H version box. Everything except Netflix, is working flawlessly. I think I will try Vudu, I will report on that.

[clarkss12]

I keep trying to understand it myself. All my other boxes work great, and I have swapped hardware. No matter what ROM I use, same problem, this is with the H version box. Everything except Netflix, is working flawlessly. I think I will try Vudu, I will report on that.

Hulu plays fine, only tried the 2 minute preview in SD. Tomorrow, maybe I will sign up and get a free HD movie to try. Vudu is way to expensive for me.

[Boris Blank]

Bob, are you watching Netflix in SD or HD?

It will be interesting to see if the Minix Neo X8 series have similar issues or not once it gets a Finless ROM.

[clarkss12]

Could the problem be the lack of proper codecs"

Technical details

Streaming

Initially streaming solely using Microsoft technologies and codecs such as VC-1 for video and WMA for audio, the rapid expansion and diversity of Netflix-capable devices have necessitated encoding into many different formats — including H.264 (AVC), VC-1, H.263 and H.265 (HEVC) for video, and Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, AAC and Ogg Vorbis for audio.^[268] According to Netflix, the vast number of codec and & bitrate combinations can mean having to encode the same title 120 different times before it can be delivered to all streaming platforms.^[269]
Netflix uses adaptive bitrate streaming technology to adjust the video and audio quality to match a customer’s broadband connection speed and realtime network conditions. Netflix recommend a 1.5Mbit/s download speed as a minimum, 3Mbit/s for DVD quality, 5Mbit/s for HD, 7Mbit/s for Super HD and 12Mbit/s for 3D streaming.^[270] Not all devices or titles support the highest quality streams. Netflix’s announced support for 4K streaming will use the H.265 codec and require a 15Mbit/s connection.^[271]
Netflix provides users the ability to choose their download rates / quality of video on their site (https://account.netflix.com/VideoQuality).
Netflix API

On October 1, 2008, Netflix launched an application programming interface (API).^[272] The Netflix API^[273] allows access to data for all Netflix titles as well as access on a user's behalf to manage his or her movie queue. The API is free and allows commercial use.^[274] The Developer Network includes a forum for asking and answering questions.^[275]
A variety of services has been created around or has integrated the API. Examples include Rotten Tomatoes and The New York Times, which allow users to click to add titles to their Netflix queue or begin watching on Watch Instantly from their pages,^[275] and Jinni, which enables one to search within Watch Instantly and imports some user information such as reviews.^[276]
Additionally, the API has allowed many developers to release Netflix applications for mobile devices. For example, on November 16, 2009, Netflix released an official Nokia app that allows some trailer streaming,^[277] and on August 26, 2010, Netflix released an official iPhone app.^[144] However, in June 2012, Netflix announced that it would be cutting back the availability of its public API.^[278][why?]



Hulu Movie format

Movies are encoded in MPEG-4 video and Dolby Digital Plus audio.^[6] Vudu offers movies in three formats: instant standard-definition, instant high-definition, and HDX. Standard-definition movies are up-scaled to higher 1080i/p resolution and high-definition movies can be output at 1080p24.^[5] The box is capable of outputting movies in 1080p/24, 1080i, 720p, 480p, and 480i video resolutions. Audio is sourced in Dolby Digital Plus and output in Dolby Digital 5.1, with the option of stereo output.^[7] Audio is limited to stereo playback on HTPC/PC/Mac platforms. Users are able to adjust video to display in stretched, boxed, or zoomed format as well as adjusting overscan settings depending on their television format.

[goldenrod]

I just conducted some tests with a variety of devices to see how Netflix bandwidth varies by device. I'm on Comcast, which is now part of Open Connect and gets preferred bandwidth. I tested using the Netflix Example Short 23.976, which has an overlay to tell you the resolution and bandwidth you're getting from Netflix.

Amazon Fire TV: Quickly ramped up to 1920x1080 at 5800 kbps.

Google Chromecast: Went up to 1920x1080 at 5800 kbps.

Acer 720 Chromebook: Went up to 720x480 at 1700 kbps.

Panasonic DMP-MST60: Went up to 1920x1080 at 5800 kbps. The ramp up was slower, but it's farther from the router, too.

Barnes & Noble Nook HD+ (running CM 11): Only went to 720x480 at 1700 kbps.

Apple iPad 3: Went up to 4300 kbps at 1280x720.

Tronsmart Vega S89: Strangely, the overlay that appears on other devices did not appear. I did not know what bandwidth or resolution it got. If I had to guess, it's 720x480 at 1700 kbps, like the Nook tablet and Chromebook. It looks fine and is smooth, but doesn't appear to be HD.

I have a couple more devices I can test, but that's a good roundup.

[clarkss12]

I just conducted some tests with a variety of devices to see how Netflix bandwidth varies by device. I'm on Comcast, which is now part of Open Connect and gets preferred bandwidth. I tested using the Netflix Example Short 23.976, which has an overlay to tell you the resolution and bandwidth you're getting from Netflix.

Amazon Fire TV: Quickly ramped up to 1920x1080 at 5800 kbps.

Google Chromecast: Went up to 1920x1080 at 5800 kbps.

Acer 720 Chromebook: Went up to 720x480 at 1700 kbps.

Panasonic DMP-MST60: Went up to 1920x1080 at 5800 kbps. The ramp up was slower, but it's farther from the router, too.

Barnes & Noble Nook HD+ (running CM 11): Only went to 720x480 at 1700 kbps.

Apple iPad 3: Went up to 4300 kbps at 1280x720.

Tronsmart Vega S89: Strangely, the overlay that appears on other devices did not appear. I did not know what bandwidth or resolution it got. If I had to guess, it's 720x480 at 1700 kbps, like the Nook tablet and Chromebook. It looks fine and is smooth, but doesn't appear to be HD.

I have a couple more devices I can test, but that's a good roundup.

Thanks for the great information. I did a test on S89-H to see what mine would do. I had the same result, no overlay. I tested my PS3 and got the same results as your Fire TV. I then tested my TV01 (aka CS968), it took about a minute to reach the max resolution.
Bitrate: 1750 kbps
Resolution: 720x480
Par: 32:27

I believe this box is missing a required codec, but I do know for sure.

[Dandroid534]

I wish I could explain this..... But I have used Netflix at least 10 times since I got this box. Perfect for me with NO ISSUES! AND YES... over Wifi!

So there is something going on here and it is not the box!

Sorry to tell you all this but something else is causing your problems. I wish I knew the answer but seriously guys, it works for me! I am not sure what APK's your installing and what else you pile on your device but I have a feeling THIS is the variable.... Remember bandwidth burned by APPs that use notification services, etc, can cause issues....

Bob

have you tried over ethernet? I have only tried over ethernet, not wifi and pic is poor. I wonder if it has anything to do with apps not recognising ethernet as an internet connection? For example Iplayer app only works over wifi, as it thinks it's not got a connection when connected by wifi.

[Dandroid534]

Thanks for the great information. I did a test on S89-H to see what mine would do. I had the same result, no overlay. I tested my PS3 and got the same results as your Fire TV. I then tested my TV01 (aka CS968), it took about a minute to reach the max resolution.
Bitrate: 1750 kbps
Resolution: 720x480
Par: 32:27

I believe this box is missing a required codec, but I do know for sure.

Its not a codec, it will be to do with drm

[clarkss12]

Its not a codec, it will be to do with drm

Then why would my TV01 (aka CS968) RK3188T play with cd quality? Also, my Tronsmart T428 jumped to cd quality almost immediately (720x480) an RK3188. All these test was using an Ethernet connection and screen set to 1080p 60hz. I even tried with wifi and different screen settings, always the same result. So, why is it just my Vega S89-H that has problems with Netflix?

[Dandroid534]

Then why would my TV01 (aka CS968) RK3188T play with cd quality? Also, my Tronsmart T428 jumped to cd quality almost immediately (720x480) an RK3188. All these test was using an Ethernet connection and screen set to 1080p 60hz. I even tried with wifi and different screen settings, always the same result. So, why is it just my Vega S89-H that has problems with Netflix?

Closed everything off, rebooted and I'm getting a pretty good picture now. Just to note I'm on 5g wifi instead of ethernet. Also, my ethernet speed is 62mb, wifi is 36mb. So it seems to be a wifi ethernet issue.

[Dandroid534]

potential solution - find a device supports good netflix speed, and has an ethernet port... spoof it or take code.

[clarkss12]

Just had an update for Netflix, June 7. Now, it is actually running pretty good.

[george909]

netflix

I'm running finless 1.7 and Netflix plays pretty good no more problems like on 1.6. http://youtu.be/BdpuKr9tdgg