I got my Draco AW80 today!

[clarkss12]

What will be gained with lollipop?

[fredphoesh]

Re: I got my Draco AW80 today!

What will be gained with lollipop?

Well afaik lollipop overcomes the 48khz limit android has had, which means one would be able to output 192khz 24bit audio clips to a decent Digital to Analogue converter and get superb sound... IF the chipset allows, and I can't find evidence wither way... Anyone?

[fredphoesh]

Re: I got my Draco AW80 today!

HD Audio I think not. Have not seen a box yet that does it.
Bob

Tx bob, dang!

[Sarco]

What will be gained with lollipop?

From installing lollipop on my Nexus 5 most of gained are in energie saver. My Nexus gained more then 35% of autonomie. Other changed are in google app and lot of cosmetic display. I don't think It will make tv box more good. But maybe some good thing in the heart....

[mstormo]

That's it!

.. I've ordered my Draco AW80 Telos from Geekbuying today, and anxiously awaiting Finless' touch of magic!

Emma (GeekBuying_Rep), any 'luv' on the expedited shipping front? I can't wait for this awesome HW!

[BTR11]

Received today

Well finally had arrived.
Start to work with the Box; So few points to remark from my early and short usage:
1) I miss the Power switcht on the Box and the absence of a good reboot app on the FW with sleep mode included into the app to do not be linked all times to the stock remote control and can hanlde it with any simple air mouse to turn off, reboot, sleep; same option for "power off" it´s missed on the bottom system bar;
2) It´s mandatory to change DPI from 160 to 240 on build.prop as stated before for others, working correct.
3) A problem found it´s that "No-Frills CPU" app can not apply the parameters after the reboot, this include the turn off with the stock remote or with the Petrus App, because report that the "reboot" or "turn off" was uncomplete; I don´t know if this is a real problem or this can be linked to the problem reported from Bob regarding to the way as stock FW perform the "root", may be losing "rott" for a while when the Box re-start is ocurring and the app start with out "root" priviliges; it´s a point to look into.
4) Logitech C525 with the stock camer a app, work Ok with proper picture/bright, and can record videos on 720P resolution which it´s good. I had suffered one crash / reboot with black screen when the camera app try to do a "not authorized action"; then It was stable...
5) The 4K - 30 Hz option make looks strange the user interfance and icons "fuzzy", sure a UI for 4K-30HZ option must be added; so for the moment I have to use the Box with the UI in 1080p-60 hz with "big fonts".
Just my first impressions; the aluminum enclosure it´s fantastic, the Box feels very well costructed; hopefully we will receive from Tronsmart/ Allwinner soon the promised Linux FW, and the updated Android FW may be first the upgraded 4.4.2 FW and soon then the Lollipop FW. Overall and preliminary I had to say that I feel it´s a good TV Box.

Some more impressions:
6) Contrast / Saturation it´s right, not need to use extra apps to correct it like in RK3188 devices; the options included into the Rom can be used to customize it to the preferred for each one.
7) Tronsmart TSM01 and Rii Mini I8 tested, both work Ok, fully functional, just customized a .kl file for Rii mini I8.
8) I had found that Kodi RC2 direct internet streaming playback performance it´s acceptable; there is a room to be improved; I remark that I´m using both, libstagefright and MediaCodec "On".

[juliocunha]

4k 60hz

BTR11. say me what about hdmi 2.0 4k 60hz?

[BTR11]

BTR11. say me what about hdmi 2.0 4k 60hz?

Simple, it does not exist on this SoC; the lack of HDMI 2.0 (4k-60hZ) It´s the bigger hardware deficiency of this TV Box (SoC); the rest of the problems it´s a matter of that Allwinner release a new SDK with fixes to can take advantage of the power of the SoC and VPU/GPU and Tronsmart release a new good / well done firmware on the base of a new SDK; they must to produce a good Android fw because this is the base of sales of this TV Box, but as well they promised a good Linux (apparently Ubuntu) firmware alternative for the people that prefer to use that OS. Allwinner / Tronsmart tech/professional commitment is under critical test these days.
But with Android or Linux/Ubuntu FWs, both, the Kodi/XBMC playback capabilities must be superlative for a TV Box like Draco is, if they fail to reach that, this will be a big / expensive fail for the users, buyers of this Draco AW80.

[MINIX]

Simple, it does not exist on this SoC; the lack of HDMI 2.0 (4k-60hZ) It´s the bigger hardware deficiency of this TV Box (SoC); the rest of the problems it´s a matter of that Allwinner release a new SDK with fixes to can take advantage of the power of the SoC and VPU/GPU and Tronsmart release a new good / well done firmware on the base of a new SDK; they must to produce a good Android fw because this is the base of sales of this TV Box, but as well they promised a good Linux (apparently Ubuntu) firmware alternative for the people that prefer to use that OS. Allwinner / Tronsmart tech/professional commitment is under critical test these days.
But with Android or Linux/Ubuntu FWs, both, the Kodi/XBMC playback capabilities must be superlative for a TV Box like Draco is, if they fail to reach that, this will be a big / expensive fail for the users, buyers of this Draco AW80.

I don't trust Axxxxxxer, the decoding and playback quality are pathetic.
The lack of proper licenses is also a major reason that we can't touch the chips from the company.
Too many legal problems behind.

[clarkss12]

I don't trust Axxxxxxer, the decoding and playback quality are pathetic.
The lack of proper licenses is also a major reason that we can't touch the chips from the company.
Too many legal problems behind.

There are a lot of different SoC in the market, why do you only use Rockchip and Amlogic?

[MINIX]

There are a lot of different SoC in the market, why do you only use Rockchip and Amlogic?

It's the result of exclusions:
There are only a few choices left after excluding those with potential legal issues (e.g. Allwinner),
AND could meet the price point for this type of products.
They are:
Rockchip, AMLogic, MStar, HiSilicon and Realtek.
Further exclusions:
Realtek is dropped because of very weak software support even though it's very cheap;
HiSilicon is dropped because of un-openness of software;
MStar is dropped because of the strange way the deploy Android, numerous patches;

[fredphoesh]

I don't trust Axxxxxxer, the decoding and playback quality are pathetic.
The lack of proper licenses is also a major reason that we can't touch the chips from the company.
Too many legal problems behind.

excluding those with potential legal issues (e.g. Allwinner)

Minix, I am very happy with my AW80 box... plays and feels better than my Tronsmart S89 and CS918 boxes, and can do things (like play Flash based video websites like TennisTV.com) better than any android device I have, including my nexus 10, and Note 4... so perhaps your negativity is something that is your personal issue with Allwinner, because from here it does not seem justified. Also this thread is for people who have received their boxes and are reporting back about it, not for a competing manufacturer to spread bad feelings.

[dlangejc]

@MINIX Will your company apply for GMS certification soon?

[MINIX]

I got my Draco AW80 today!

@MINIX Will your company apply for GMS certification soon?

Then the first thing is to remove XBMC, so no.

[MINIX]

I got my Draco AW80 today!

Minix, I am very happy with my AW80 box... plays and feels better than my Tronsmart S89 and CS918 boxes, and can do things (like play Flash based video websites like TennisTV.com) better than any android device I have, including my nexus 10, and Note 4... so perhaps your negativity is something that is your personal issue with Allwinner, because from here it does not seem justified. Also this thread is for people who have received their boxes and are reporting back about it, not for a competing manufacturer to spread bad feelings.

It's up to you.
Buyers' perspective are different from makers', you're not the one to be penalised.
We're not on the same side so it's normal that we have different opinions.
Nothing to be argued about. Just buy and use whatever you like.
It can't handle videos fluently is a fact though. Cheers.