Tronsmart T428 status so far

[geekbuying]

don't worry, all of yours will have the heatsink, bob's sample is really too hurry to ship, so the heatsink is put by hand, that's the problem

[Spotopolis]

don't worry, all of yours will have the heatsink, bob's sample is really too hurry to ship, so the heatsink is put by hand, that's the problem

Sweet. Do they support 802.11ac? It was originally listed in the specs, but I dont see that anymore. Just b/g/n

[geekbuying]

Yes, i remove that, the T428 is use AP6330 wifi chipset, and it support 5Ghz wireless frequency range(already tested with the 5Ghz wireless router),and with the information i know, the 802.11ac should use the 5ghz wireless frequency, however, the problem is, we don't have a real wirless router which an support 802.11ac, (only ASUS RT-AC66U support that, but it hard to get it in china now),so if any of you guys who are lucky to have a ASUS RT-AC66U router, please help to test, and report back.

[Spotopolis]

Yes, i remove that, the T428 is use AP6330 wifi chipset, and it support 5Ghz wireless frequency range(already tested with the 5Ghz wireless router),and with the information i know, the 802.11ac should use the 5ghz wireless frequency, however, the problem is, we don't have a real wirless router which an support 802.11ac, (only ASUS RT-AC66U support that, but it hard to get it in china now),so if any of you guys who are lucky to have a ASUS RT-AC66U router, please help to test, and report back.

Actually just got that router 2 weeks ago. Ill let you know when I get the t428 in my hands. Itll be the first device I own that supports AC.

[geekbuying]

Lucky guy, i wait for your feedback

Actually just got that router 2 weeks ago. Ill let you know when I get the t428 in my hands. Itll be the first device I own that supports AC.

[PoisonWolf]

Lucky guy, i wait for your feedback

Man I'm tempted to pick one T428 up.....wish you guys still had the free Ethernet offer or something. $99 is pretty steep lol.

[Mandrake2]

i have need know if really in 2d/3d i have a gain of performance (1400/4600) else it not have sense for me buy t428/mk908, because i have mk808B and have 1400/2500 points in 2d/3d. I use emulator fpse and other and i have need of plus performance gpu (also cpu and ram).
Geekbuying use screenshot antutu t428 with 18700 points but in this forum have written 15,500.., so the principal question is :
which really performance have in ram/cpu/2d/3d with 4.2 android this T428 and mk908 with 4.1.1???
scaling cpu/governor and wifi Always max 65mbps in 802.11n? (really no problem for this)
Sorry for my bad english.

[SpicySaturdayBoy]

i have need know if really in 2d/3d i have a gain of performance (1400/4600) else it not have sense for me buy t428/mk908, because i have mk808B and have 1400/2500 points in 2d/3d. I use emulator fpse and other and i have need of plus performance gpu (also cpu and ram).
Geekbuying use screenshot antutu t428 with 18700 points but in this forum have written 15,500.., so the principal question is :
which really performance have in ram/cpu/2d/3d with 4.2 android this T428 and mk908 with 4.1.1???
scaling cpu/governor and wifi Always max 65mbps in 802.11n? (really no problem for this)
Sorry for my bad english.

For me I don't really believe in power of RK3188. I am looking for other GPU that more powerful than overclock Mali 400 such like new Mali T604 or PowerVR GPU. Since RK3188 just have 2 more CPU cores with same GPU overclock I think just a little bit more power than RK3066.

[Spotopolis]

Man I'm tempted to pick one T428 up.....wish you guys still had the free Ethernet offer or something. $99 is pretty steep lol.

As long as it fully supports 802.11ac, the 10/100 USB to Ethernet dongle Im getting will be useless at that point.
I could always use it for my MK808 though..

For me I don't really believe in power of RK3188. I am looking for other GPU that more powerful than overclock Mali 400 such like new Mali T604 or PowerVR GPU. Since RK3188 just have 2 more CPU cores with same GPU overclock I think just a little bit more power than RK3066.

Keep in mind that development with these sticks is still only really beginning. I bought an OG Evo 4G from Sprint the day it was launched. It was a single core Snapdragon CPU @ 1GHz and 512MB of RAM. They are still tweaking that sucker out to be just as fast as any of the dual-core phones. The development community sometimes takes some time, but If you stick with a device long enough you'll be surprised at the results you can get compared to OEM settings.

There is always going to be a better product just around the corner, especially in the world of TV Sticks/Tabs/Phones. Your better off finding one that is decent spec'd and has peaked the interest of the community to get somewhere. Take the Zeals GK802 for instance... first quad-core, not a whole lot of dev. I have a feeling these RK3188 will be the place to be for a while now since the Devs have experience with the previous RockChip SoCs.

I for one would love to have a quad or an octa Exynos CPU in a TV Stick, but Samsung hasn't been very good about keeping the community up to date with info on their hardware, so its been making the dev process a pain in the butt. Cyanogen just about said no to any more Sammy products because they were so difficult to work with due to the lack of info. Also keep in mind that the reason these sticks are able to be so cheap is because they are not using the big mainstream bleeding edge SoCs such as Exynos or Snapdragon. While that would be nice, It would drive the price up a lot.

Im rambling now. Sorry. I just got my shipping info for my T428 and Im excited...

[PoisonWolf]

For me I don't really believe in power of RK3188. I am looking for other GPU that more powerful than overclock Mali 400 such like new Mali T604 or PowerVR GPU. Since RK3188 just have 2 more CPU cores with same GPU overclock I think just a little bit more power than RK3066.

Same. For gaming, I don't think it'll make much of a difference. They're still using the same GPU, but pushing it to 533mhz.

If they really want to make GPU performance shine, they can try to find a way to push the suckers up to 800mhz.

[Spotopolis]

Same. For gaming, I don't think it'll make much of a difference. They're still using the same GPU, but pushing it to 533mhz.

If they really want to make GPU performance shine, they can try to find a way to push the suckers up to 800mhz.

Its the same GPU and speed thats in the Galaxy Note II and it is great for gaming. I can run Dead Trigger on max settings (tegra graphics forced to on) and get great performance. It still works great in the MK808 as well. For emulation its more about CPU power than GPU because it has to emulate the entire console witch takes a lot of processing power.

[PoisonWolf]

Its the same GPU and speed thats in the Galaxy Note II and it is great for gaming. I can run Dead Trigger on max settings (tegra graphics forced to on) and get great performance. It still works great in the MK808 as well. For emulation its more about CPU power than GPU because it has to emulate the entire console witch takes a lot of processing power.

On stock kernel, I think they keep the MK808 Mali 400 locked to 266 mhz max. 2dark4u's kernel raises this to 433. He has proprietary sources that allows him to gain some additional tweaks that Omegamoon does not have access to. Omegamoon's kernel raises the limit to 400 mhz.

[Spotopolis]

On stock kernel, I think they keep the MK808 Mali 400 locked to 266 mhz max. 2dark4u's kernel raises this to 433. He has proprietary sources that allows him to gain some additional tweaks that Omegamoon does not have access to. Omegamoon's kernel raises the limit to 400 mhz.

I was using Bobs stock kernel up until recently. I haven't notice a performance difference between the OC GPU and stock speeds in gaming. I was using Finless's 1.5 with Stock Kernel on my 808 and was able to play DT at full Tegra specs with no issues.

If I remember correctly there is actually a hardware difference between the Mali clocked at 266 vs the 533 version. I think it had to do with the way it communicated between the memory, CPU, and GPU. I think it was a hardware change that allowed for better throughput and they clocked it higher to 533. I know the Mali 400 in my phone can be clocked to 800, but I have it at stock because there isn't a big enough difference to risk burning out my GPU/Killing battery life. On a Stick with dedicated power and heatsink Ill crank it up all the way!

EDIT: If I remember correctly it was somewhere in THIS post on XDA for the Note II where I red that info on the GPU.

[lukesan]

Guys don't expect that much of ac wireless yet. First of all it is still draft. Secondly and more important is that the speed depends on the amount of channels and the signal strength.

I have a bunch of wifi devices, could build a small house probably, including the Linksys EA6500 which has ac.
I have done some testing with an ac capable receiver but to be honest with my tests it wasn't worth it over N on 5GHz. Also we are talking about slower cpu's here which cannot compete with laptop or desktop cpu's yet. Networking is sometimes cpu intensive.
Looking at the MK808 it has wifi N on 2.4GHz but only limited 65Mbps like most phones. I would rather have a good stable 5GHz that is capable of 450Mbps than a badly implemented ac.

[Spotopolis]

....Tronsmart t428 in my warehouse now will get better heatsink and i will try to take a photo of inside of tronsmart t428 and show you guys...

Any update on photos? I may end up doing the same as my 808 and replace the heatsink with thermal paste and a NorthBridge heatsink. It depends on what you have on there.