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Do you honestly think that filing a complaint with ftc is going to do any good at all? If you don't like the tablet, return it. Otherwise, work with the community to make it better.
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Filing complaints is a realistic, viable and adult way to taking genui ne concerns regarding a product into the public realm when a product or service does not perform as sold or advertised.
Unless someone here can rewrite the code for the app, test code on several of said platform, publish and post said app we 'end users' have little but legal recourse.
Every state's Attorney General's office accept and catalog complaints every day. This empowers your state to initiate 'Class Action' lawsuits against irresposible manufacturers, like New York suing Dell.
Obviously Polaroid will NOT address this situation in a meaningful and profesional fashion. That leaves it up to adult consumers to make the company responsible.
There is no 'magic fix' for this problem. Amazon and Polaroid are aware of theproblem and have done nothing but dump the product on the public in order to cut losses.
Personaly, I do not 'run' from problems. Nor do I merely return items that do not work as advertised, companies must been made responsible for their action/inaction.
I Have been working with 'the community' to no avail. Honestly, this IS how thingz work, why is it OUR responsibility to MAKE a product work as advertised?
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Honestly, on the box or in the book I have seen nothing about netflix or it being advertised to work on these tablets. So not sure on how they "advertised" netflix to work perfectly. Honestly I have had no issue from my netflix since day one and have streamed dozens of things from netflix. Besides putting all the blame on polaroid, why not also comment on netflix's side of this ordeal. Polaroid didn't not set the locations that netflix uses. That's all in the coding from netflix. Shouldn't you also file a complaint on them also?nthey advertise it to work on androids but you seem to be having issues wth that.
Just saying there is the software side to look also before saying its all hardware
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1) The fact that you claim to have a perfect working 701i is the exception to the rule, as yiu can clearly see on this and many forums.
2) It is not my responsibility to litigate this issue right here today. :-)
3) FAR MORE units are experiancing the SAME problem, against rule vs exception.
4) It IS a consumers right/responsibility to make regulatory bodies aware of false claims by companies.
5) This problem has been 'in' the community for several weeks to no avail, it is time WE the people who PAID for this device had our concerns addressed.
6) One unit our of hundreds is a fluke, not a standard. However, according to MOST regulatory bodies ALL of a product line should/must perform in a like fashion.
7) A manual or quick start guide are NOT advertising. Advertising is ADDS used to promote/sell a product. I have seen SEVERAL adds promoting the 701i as netflix capable.... Nobody is asking for "perfectly" that is hyperbole on your part.
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I have seen no adds for this besides in a biglots paper. So these advertisements, where are they? Netflix says its compatible with most androids. The issue of where it creates the buffer is a coding issue. On the side of netflix. This unt comes with everything they know to work, adding on software is on your side. So still to try to blame polaroid for this is like blaming windows for itunes not working.
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Not sure where Windows comes in here, you are seriously confused. Linux is the OS here and this is obviously NOT an OS issue (Netflix runs well on MANY Linux platforms). Seems like grasping at straws, IMHO.
It is a mute point, I have already filed complaints with; B.B.B., F.T.C. and the California Attorney General's office. I don't work for Polaroid and have no desire to protect them from litigation.... if necessary.
FYI can't help but notice this thread was highjacked, I came here to see if anyone had solutions not alliances or 'hopes'. This is not the only forum, not the only thread. There are many people who saw said advertising. As I indicated BEFORE I have no desire to litigate this issue here. :-)
I can tell you read my last point, what about the other Six?
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Its a software issue not a hardware issue. Ofcourse I know android is a variant of linux. So windows came in as a analogy. Using someone else's software on your hardware and blaming the hardware is just redundant. 9 to 10 says that the ftc And bbb will have the same view on this. Its not the hardware and its not the os. So therefore there is one place to lay the blame.....SOFTWARE. so to say I'm grasping at straws, lmao I'm grasping onto the relevant straw.
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1) I was NOT blaming the OS, I WAS blaming Polaroid. Therefore you 'anology' is incompatible with my statement. Whereas Polaroid is NOT the OS linux IS.
2) Redudant = being in excess, exceeding what is usual/having more parts than necessary/prolix/ repetitive.... Not so sure 'redundant' means what you think it does as there is NO 'redundancy' in my supposition.
3) By what scientific methidology have you (blasted by hypothisis) and made your definitive conclusion?
4) My statement of 'grasping at straws' pretained to your statement "blaming windows for itunes problems", which FYI is not unprecedented or unheard of.
5) ANY computing device that can ONLY run with what was installed by OEM is a FAILED device. It is like saying the reason WoW won't work on a gaming rig is because woW was not installed by the OEM, a specious argument and selfserving.
6) Having spent a Great Deal of time working with; California Attorney General's Office, the F.T.C. and the B.B.B. on many product issues over the past thirty years I know they will address the issue, contact the corporation, and work towards a resolution. Just Now many times have YOU won a complaint and received assitance or a financial settlement? Myself, many many times.
Last, I clearly see you are a 'fanboy' and I am happy for your blind devotion. However, your con descension shall not dismay me or deter my presistence. Ironiclly, you tell people to use "V6 supercharger" but it did not come OEM on our 701i' this flys in the face of your statement "This unit comes with everything they know to work." HOW can you' logically' have it both ways?
Finally, I NEVER said this is am issue of "where the buffer is created" I EXPLAINED that it is MHO the problem lies with the app using/reading the buffer. Honestly I would hope people correctly READ my posts prior to misquoting/bashing. One can only hope. :-)
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Wow before you go throwing around the words "fanboy" maybe you should do a bit more research. Yeah I'm a fan of the 701 that I have and am proud ro say that yes I modded it to get it the way I want.
And the fact that you have won many financial settlements means nothing to me. If yu didn't like te product, why keep it?
Ok the buffer you speak of, is created in the os by the netflix app. This is no way related to polaroid. And I'm sorry if you install third party software, this is no longer fully supported by the oem. I'm not sure about you, but my exerience of being in tech and working for one of these oems, I know for a fact if you call them with an issue with third party software they will direct you to where you got said software.
My anology is actually pretty accurate. And yeah I know it happens, but then do you blame windows because they didn't code it right, when its not even their product?
If your that dissatisfied with this tablet, then don't buy low end tablets at low end department stores. Plus most places have atleast a 30 day return policy. I know biglots does. Which oddly enough is the only places i have seen these tablets.
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Originally posted by SingleDad View PostI hope it works to! My experience has been that it doesn't matter whether I install Netflix on the SD card, the internal SD card, or the actual "tablet/device" internal memory. No matter what I've had issues with Netflix. This isn't a 701i, but a 701C stock, and then with ICS installed. Hasn't mattered for me on the 701C whether Netflix is on an SD card or internal memory. Do report back and let us know though!
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Yeah, like this thread was really productive? Name ONE accomplishment.
1) "And I'm sorry if you install third party software, this is no longer fully supported by the oem." Broken English, much? So, according to your statement when I install 3rd party software on my Blackbird it is no longer supported by HP? ROFFLMAO IF you had spent a Single day in tech support you would know that is a lie.
2) AGAIN I NEVER said it was the buffer... AGAIN I have repeatedky said HOW it USES said buffer. IF the bus between the SD card and the mobo is too narrow that would explain ALL THE PROBLEMS and THAT is a design problem = Polaroid
EXACTLY You Prove my point, you have ALTERED YOUR PRODUCT, that negates your experience. MOST customers are not willing to 'brick' their purchase just to TRY to get ONE program working and no where does it say you 'root' your device to get videos to work.
Next, just because you saw it @ biglots does not mean it is ONLY sold there, that is cyclical thinking.
Oh, and Been Still My Heart, head is "done with me". Two pages and NOTHING contributed. Evidently you simply MUST 'root' your device and void the warranty. As well, I am not some ditto head who runs back to the store whenever something doesn't work properly. I have worked with HP to improve performance on two different computers I purchased.
LEGALLY the blame falls squarely on Polaroid because of branding.
I have TRIED SEVERAL TIMES to; share findings, give suggestions, and contribute but I will not support "just return it" or 'rooting'. The pathway of least resistance is sedom the path to a largely viable solutions.
Let's face facts, HOW are my comments prohibiting a solutions, N O T. If there were solutions they will happen indepenent of what I do or say, that is a sophomoric notion.
I have worked on/with computers since 1974 when I started playing a Star Trek game on a teletype machine I rebuilt via a 'phone crade' connected to the mainframe @ Baylor medical. As a Ham Novice I assisted running phone patches between families and their sons in Vietnam. In the mid 80's I worked on asynchronous automatic call distribution systems as they replaced 'cord boards' in telephone answering services (Tel-Us LTD, Beverly Hills, CA). I have been involved with electronics and data since vacuum tubes, Heathkit and DuMont.
For adults it is not about 'liking' a product (like apple fanboys contributing to slave labor and deadly working conditions) it IS about making a corporation RESPONSIBLE. That takes courage, conviction, tenacity, a touch of verbal acuity and linguistic legerdemain.
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@corki2 I have experimented with the installation. I have had better performance installing on internal Much more than the SD installation. This is most likely because the 'cache' is put on the SD card (I went and bought a C4 class card). This kind of figures, as all gamers know you NEVER leave the page file on your 'C/' drive OR your primary hard drive (Intel says it is best to put the page file on several internal drives, never on the same as the OS and never on more than one partition.). Best performance is when a page or cache file does not reside on the same drive as the program or OS.
Actually, with a 10Mbps + connection not much of a cache is needed, though I have seen my Netflix cache up to 500mb.
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Originally posted by EnzoMatrix View Post@corki2 I have experimented with the installation. I have had better performance installing on internal Much more than the SD installation. This is most likely because the 'cache' is put on the SD card (I went and bought a C4 class card). This kind of figures, as all gamers know you NEVER leave the page file on your 'C/' drive OR your primary hard drive (Intel says it is best to put the page file on several internal drives, never on the same as the OS and never on more than one partition.). Best performance is when a page or cache file does not reside on the same drive as the program or OS.
Actually, with a 10Mbps + connection not much of a cache is needed, though I have seen my Netflix cache up to 500mb.
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