10b G3 - A.O.S.P 4.0.4 snakekiller final version 2 with init.d and V6 supercharger support.

[bay1902]

OK so help me understand. You install some apps and they are there and run. How do you tell they got installed to SD? You reboot and now they are not there? The files are on SD but Android does not know about them?

Bob

Ok - I'll use aldiko again (one of the culprits). Pre V6 installation - installed app, working fine, in menu; V6 then installed, device rebooted, app not in menu, when looking at apps using System Settings app is no longer there - instead there is a 4kb com.x.aldiko file. Moving that back to device makes no difference.

Install app>quickly move from external sd card-memory (tablet)>reboot>app remains. Without the manual move the app will vanish after a reboot of the tablet.

As i've said this appears to be random. At first I thought it was apps which were generally large, not the case as there are some other large apps which naturally install to internal.

Hope this makes sense

[Finless]

You guys are confusing me. So does the problem exist if you NEVER run V6? I keep hearing different answers on this.

Bob

[bay1902]

Thanks but that is not the issue.

Snakekiller or someone please do this test.

1) Install the apps that goto the SDcard.
2) Reboot. Confirm that they are missing.
3) Go into setting and unmount the sdcard.
4) No go back in and remount the sdcard.

Do the apps show up now?

Bob

Ok, just trying this now. Will edit back in a mo

Edit: Nope this didn't work. Aldiko (my chosen tester) still comes back with com.aldiko.android (4.00kb) after reboot & remounting the external sd card. Trying to move the app brings up a message that the "app doesn't exist".

[bay1902]

You guys are confusing me. So does the problem exist if you NEVER run V6? I keep hearing different answers on this.

Bob

I can only speak for myself. I never had this problem before adding v6 to the latest rom of SK's. Snakekiller says different in his experience, but these apps were stable, running, no probs, and after installing v6 this issue occurred upon reboot & is persistent since. I know this from my frequent use of both aldiko and homerun battle - 2 of my most used apps, which disappeared after getting v6 installed.

Again SK says different & I am not stating he is wrong, but this is what I have found & why I reported the issue in the first place.

[Finless]

Well the answer to this is important. It maybe how init.d is working or how he integrated V6 into init.rc

What I am reading is if the sdcard is not mounted before some scripts run, it could be causing the issue. The OS loads, doesnt see the a sdcard, and unregisters the APPs that are on SD. It has to do with timing.

Bob

[bay1902]

Seems this way to me. Must be to do with the external sd card being slower at boot & therefore the data not being read before the scripts activate. Thing is how do we get the timing adjusted???

Its at this point I wish I was a programmer & not just a bug finder! lol

Alternatively...and this could be the proverbial in the wind...could we not develop a script which notifies us of an app being installed to external sd? Seems that apps - like ZDbox, etc provide an xml which identifies apps that can be moved. Could we not have a script which does the reverse - identifies us when one is moved? I know its not the ultimate solution but could be easier to work with, particularly as i'm certain the app2sd script just reads the app xml data upon installation.

Again, this is just a theory & I could be completely barking!

[bay1902]

ok, been doing some digging around the net about app2sd scripts, etc. Specifically looking at the link2sd and mount2sd scripts. It appears to me that the manner by which both work with init.rc is effective, particularly the manner by which mount2sd creates a 3rd system directory. Quote from the xda link to mount2sd:

"The old way is to create a service for init.d in init.rc.
The problem with the service is that it is executed while the rest of the boot process is working. This means that moving things like /data/data and /data/dalvik-cache will create problems, because the system will keep trying to rebuild the moved content to it's original path while m2sd is moving it.

The sysinit script executed with the exec command however, will stall the boot process until all of the init.d scripts has been executed. That means that m2sd can move the content and bind the original path to the sd-ext path before the system starts it's work."

I suspect this is what's happening with the external sd apps at the moment.

Using sd_ext with link2sd or mount2sd could solve the problem by the way the scripts link the apps which loading occurs. Not the resolution we need auto, but could be worth a look-see to see if we can match the binding??

[bay1902]

Another thought...auto script using smanager with the following style scripting through terminal??

su
mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
busybox cp /sdcard/location/of/application.apk /system/app/
busybox cp /sdcard/location/of/application2.apk /system/app/
mount -o remount,ro -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
sync

The only part I can't figure out is the auto-recognition of the apps moved to external sd?

[bay1902]

Ok, just tried to be clever. Thought i'd try a link2sd partition and see if this could auto-link the files using a small partition to the internal using their auto settings. Confirmed - did not work!

Oh well, at least I gave it a shot. STill reckon there's something in the autolink scripts we can use somehow.???

[snakekiller]

Re: A.O.S.P 4.0.4 snakekiller final version 2 with init.d and V6 supercharger support.

ok guys listen too me i did a few days ago a new flash with version 1.5 no init.d and no v6 supercharger.
when i install archidroid from the market its install automatically to sd .
the app run fine.
after reboot icon still there on home page launcher if i look in settings app only sdcard icon with a few bytes.
if i look in mnt/asec or mnt secure than the app files off archidroid are removed.
so conclusion it won't save after reboot.
and listen guys ITS NOT A V6 PROBLEM OK.
because version 1.5 was without v6

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[bay1902]

Perhaps this thread / build will help with the solution:

http://www.icsforums.com/forum/showthread/189?page=2690

Been reading through it - same problem we have - but they have solved it in their build. Worth a look??

[MrWeelson]

Hi,

Just catching up with all the fun! Not installing this version as I've no real need for V6 or scripting so perfectly happy with the last version!!

I had this problem with several roms, including previous versions that Bob release for the A10G3. A couple of games (Robinson and Zombie Lane) installed fine but vanished on a re-boot. Eventually tracked down that they were installing to SD by default and I had to move manually to internal storage. Also when they upgrade the same thing happened.

Just my 2c.

Andy

[snakekiller]

Re: A.O.S.P 4.0.4 snakekiller final version 2 with init.d and V6 supercharger support.

i think its the only solution now , just move too tablet after install

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[Finless]

Guess what guys. This appears to be a ICS 4.0.4 issue. My new Momo tablet is doing the same thing even with the stock ROM!

Bob

[snakekiller]

Re: A.O.S.P 4.0.4 snakekiller final version 2 with init.d and V6 supercharger support.

ok im happy its not my rom only
i replaced the init.rc with the stock init.rc
but when i try to install archidroid i have a error could not install to usb or sd.
no i don't know anymore.


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