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    Newest firmware for PMID703C is NOT rooted! Please help!

    Hi, I've had 2 PMID703c tablets now. The newest one I bought this week 11/05/12 from Shopko and it had this version firmware on it: PMID70X.V01.86.00.20120817-OTA. It is NOT factory rooted! I went online and downloaded the latest firmware http://www.southerntelecom.com/polar..._4.0v3_OTA.zip and this TOO is not factory rooted! I had to downgrade the brand new tablet to a firmware version I downloaded from 5/2012 that -is- factory rooted. This would be fine except both tablets with the 5/2012 software on them have issues with randomly shutting down or not turning on, so I would like the newest firmware installed. How do I root this version? I cannot access root to copy/save/modify anything with a root-capable explorer, I get an error message saying its not rooted. I really need root access for google play, several apps I frequently use are not on Amazon appstore or slideme. Please help!

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    Re: Newest firmware for PMID703C is NOT rooted! Please help!

    The only thing I can think of is to research how to modify those livesuit files. I think there are some instructions on this forum, but you may need Linux to do it.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

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      #3
      Originally posted by ilukeintheband View Post
      Hi, I've had 2 PMID703c tablets now. The newest one I bought this week 11/05/12 from Shopko and it had this version firmware on it: PMID70X.V01.86.00.20120817-OTA. It is NOT factory rooted! I went online and downloaded the latest firmware http://www.southerntelecom.com/polar..._4.0v3_OTA.zip and this TOO is not factory rooted! I had to downgrade the brand new tablet to a firmware version I downloaded from 5/2012 that -is- factory rooted. This would be fine except both tablets with the 5/2012 software on them have issues with randomly shutting down or not turning on, so I would like the newest firmware installed. How do I root this version? I cannot access root to copy/save/modify anything with a root-capable explorer, I get an error message saying its not rooted. I really need root access for google play, several apps I frequently use are not on Amazon appstore or slideme. Please help!
      Same thing just happened to me on a PTAB7XC. Trying to find a solution to root it again. I have 4 identical tablets. One I updated when I first got the tablets a couple months ago. That one is working just great. So I decided to update another one. Not realizing it's a different ROM, I flashed it, and now my factory rooted tablet is rooted and useless. Anyone have a way around this?

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        #4
        Originally posted by MdPhoenix View Post
        Same thing just happened to me on a PTAB7XC.[...] Anyone have a way around this?
        Very possibly...

        I downloaded the LiveSuite images for both the 703C and the 7XC, pulled 'em apart in Windows, then examined them in Linux. They are identical. They are also very un-rooted: release build, not debuggable, and worst of all, no 'su' binary on them. However, getting them rooted may be very simple (maybe).

        Before my own Polaroid became a permanent construction zone, I found that trying to enter Recovery using the hardware buttons didn't give me anything useful. However, selecting Settings->Backup & reset->Recovery Mode produced the standard Recovery menu. I just looked at a similar tablet (a D2Pad), and its menu offers "apply update from external storage". Are you able to get into Recovery as described, and do you have that menu entry? Also, do the buttons on your tablets let you choose an item, then select it? (On the D2Pad, the Volume buttons move the selection but the Power button doesn't act like an Enter key).

        If everything works as it ought to, then it shouldn't be too hard for me to create an "update.zip" that installs 'su' and replaces 'build.prop' with one that's more root-friendly. If that fails, we can look into creating a rooted Live Suite image

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          #5
          Sadly, that option is not there. I wish I could simply find the last update which was on their website. That would solve the entire issue.

          However if you're able to program SU into a Livesuite ROM, I'll try it. I've got 4 of them. Only one is unrooted now. It's worth a try. Besides, my wife shops at Kohl's regularly. Apparently they'll take back anything. She'd figure out a way to get them to accept the return if it bricks.

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            #6
            Originally posted by dolorespark View Post
            Very possibly... I downloaded the LiveSuite images for both the 703C and the 7XC, pulled 'em apart in Windows, then examined them in Linux. They are identical. They are also very un-rooted: release build, not debuggable, and worst of all, no 'su' binary on them. However, getting them rooted may be very simple (maybe). Before my own Polaroid became a permanent construction zone, I found that trying to enter Recovery using the hardware buttons didn't give me anything useful. However, selecting Settings->Backup & reset->Recovery Mode produced the standard Recovery menu. I just looked at a similar tablet (a D2Pad), and its menu offers "apply update from external storage". Are you able to get into Recovery as described, and do you have that menu entry? Also, do the buttons on your tablets let you choose an item, then select it? (On the D2Pad, the Volume buttons move the selection but the Power button doesn't act like an Enter key). If everything works as it ought to, then it shouldn't be too hard for me to create an "update.zip" that installs 'su' and replaces 'build.prop' with one that's more root-friendly. If that fails, we can look into creating a rooted Live Suite image
            i will download the i,age and see if I cank cook a rooted factory image if someone is willing to test it (I do not have a 703c)
            https://public.bay.livefilestore.com...ion.png?psid=1

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              #7
              Do we think the 703c image will work on a 7XC?
              I'll try it. No guts, no glory.

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                #8
                Originally posted by elektrik View Post
                i will download the i,age and see if I cank cook a rooted factory image if someone is willing to test it (I do not have a 703c)
                I've got that done, all I have to do is put the pieces back together again. The reason I wanted to do an update.zip is that it would be 1mb vs 275mb - plus I could test it.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MdPhoenix View Post
                  Do we think the 703c image will work on a 7XC?
                  I've already confirmed the LiveSuite images are identical.

                  Now, before we go tossing 275mb boat-anchors around, let's try one more thing. ADB has a command to reboot into recovery but I'm at work so I can't check what it is. Could you open a command window, change to whatever directory has ADB, then enter just "adb". It will give you a long list of commands (you may have to scroll back). One of them should be something like "reboot-recovery". Give that a try to see if you can get to a usable recovery menu as described above. Solving this with a 1mb file would be nice.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by dolorespark View Post
                    I've already confirmed the LiveSuite images are identical.

                    Now, before we go tossing 275mb boat-anchors around, let's try one more thing. ADB has a command to reboot into recovery but I'm at work so I can't check what it is. Could you open a command window, change to whatever directory has ADB, then enter just "adb". It will give you a long list of commands (you may have to scroll back). One of them should be something like "reboot-recovery". Give that a try to see if you can get to a usable recovery menu as described above. Solving this with a 1mb file would be nice.
                    I'm familiar with that. I'll see if I can do it here at work. Kinda swamped and leaving in 30 min. I'll see what I can do.

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                      #11
                      Found the time

                      I typed "adb reboot recovery" and it simply rebooted. Is there anything in the syntax I'm missing?

                      Also, don't we need to push a recovery.img file first?

                      Bear with me. I'm very new to the whole Linux and Android programming scene.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by MdPhoenix View Post
                        I typed "adb reboot recovery" and it simply rebooted. Is there anything in the syntax I'm missing?
                        Also, don't we need to push a recovery.img file first?
                        I would have expected a dash in there ("adb reboot-recovery"). Oh well, get ready for a boat-anchor...

                        I'm even newer to Android than you, but from what I gather, many/most ROMs have a standard recovery facility that forms the basis for 3rd-party enhancements like CWM. They may make it hard (or impossible) to get to but it's usually there.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by dolorespark View Post
                          I've got that done, all I have to do is put the pieces back together again. The reason I wanted to do an update.zip is that it would be 1mb vs 275mb - plus I could test it.
                          Have you tested it yet? If so, I could make a livesuite image with just your changes (and maybe a little guidance).
                          https://public.bay.livefilestore.com...ion.png?psid=1

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by dolorespark View Post
                            get ready for a boat-anchor...
                            OK, I've got the LiveSuite image ready - it's a mere 261mb. It's almost 3am here now, so I'll wait until the morning to upload it, then I'll send mdPhoenix a private message with the URL. If it works for him, I'll make it public.

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                              #15
                              I'm @ work, ready and willing. Lemme know from where to snag it and we'll give it a shot.

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