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YUNDOO RK3399 Y8 TV Box - 4GB RAM + 32GB ROM

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    #16
    Can you confirm it only outputs stero pcm?
    No digital passthrough for dd/dts.

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      #17
      How are you testing for this I may be to test
      I see other post you have made you are convinced its not.
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        #18
        Originally posted by trebor View Post
        How are you testing for this I may be to test
        I see other post you have made you are convinced its not.
        I actually own the unit
        First of all the is no option in the sound menu of android settings in order to choose between pcm or raw/bitsream. This is completely missing.
        Tried KODI 16.1/17 and spmc and i only get stereo pcm. If i select bitstream from the KODI menu, i get no sound. If i choose pcm i get stereo out only.

        The only thing i haven't tried yet is FTMC.

        Did you manage to get DD/DTS bitstream in any way?

        I also get minor lags in YouTube (in all resolutions)

        The unit is connected to Marantz sr7011 a/v receiver supporting all latest codecs. Cables are certified as well.

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          #19
          Originally posted by vadergr View Post

          I actually own the unit
          First of all the is no option in the sound menu of android settings in order to choose between pcm or raw/bitsream. This is completely missing.
          Tried KODI 16.1/17 and spmc and i only get stereo pcm. If i select bitstream from the KODI menu, i get no sound. If i choose pcm i get stereo out only.

          The only thing i haven't tried yet is FTMC.

          Did you manage to get DD/DTS bitstream in any way?

          I also get minor lags in YouTube (in all resolutions)

          The unit is connected to Marantz sr7011 a/v receiver supporting all latest codecs. Cables are certified as well.
          Check if you can root your device.
          Then copy this app to /system/Settings2 folder that you create -https://github.com/geekboxzone/mmall.../Settings2.apk
          You can change the audio output in that app.

          The minor lags in Youtube is because of the slow RAM and EMMC storage.
          You can use foldermount to mount the Youtube cache folder to an external drive that can solve it.

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            #20
            To release device with poor memory at this point is silly.... You tube doesnt studder on 3229 d5. But firat releases always buggy.
            Many devices now mk902ii/Shield/Mk68 /Ugoos/neox5/minix5 (yes they still work lol) mk80 no it doesnt work lol.

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              #21
              so much $/£ and still all the hassle.

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                #22
                Originally posted by mo123 View Post

                Check if you can root your device.
                Then copy this app to /system/Settings2 folder that you create -https://github.com/geekboxzone/mmall.../Settings2.apk
                You can change the audio output in that app.

                The minor lags in Youtube is because of the slow RAM and EMMC storage.
                You can use foldermount to mount the Youtube cache folder to an external drive that can solve it.
                I dont want to root my device.
                I am aware of the Kodi problems with RK SoCs ,so the passthrough "problem" looked normal, but the YouTube one has nothing to do with ram and emmc storage.
                There are stutters even in sd.
                To be honest ,it is quite fast everywhere else.

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                  #23
                  Confirm YT stutter, firmware I guess and since the app was not installed they may have known something.
                  Early days
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by trebor View Post
                    Confirm YT stutter, firmware I guess and since the app was not installed they may have known something.
                    Early days
                    Thanks for checking

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                      #25
                      Also tested the setting2.apk mentioned, could not get it to take, but my skills in this area are limited.
                      Netflix, Plex and FTMC play fine but the audio as you say looks suss, still fiddling.

                      But a good Unit 5 seconds or so to boot Excellent here.


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                        #26

                        Review of the 4gb version above.

                        Pretty much the same things we are discussing here

                        Yundoo Y8 is a brand new release with very impressive specification list including 4GB of RAM and the Rockchip’s latest SoC RK3399.




                        Packaging – Specifications

                        Yundoo Y8 arrived in a (surprise!) small black carton box.

                        Inside you will find the media box, and HDMI cable, the remote (no batteries inside) and quick start manual.

                        Specifications are very impressive and dictate the next generation of media boxes.

                        Y8 sports the brand new RK3399 SoC from Rockchip, a hexa-core processor with 2 x ARM Cortex A72 cores (up to 2.0GHz) and 4 x ARM Cortex A53 cores (up to 1.44GHz). The new Mali-T860 GPU offers upgraded performance compared to previous generations and the 4GB of DDR3 RAM promise great multi-tasking performance unmatched so far by any other existing media box.

                        Furthermore, 32GB of ROM will make sure that you will be able to install a large number of applications and games before the storage runs out of free space.

                        Connectivity is also amazing with 2x USB 2.0 ports, 1x USB 3.0 port, 1x USB type C (video and data support), 1x HDMI 2.0a, 1x S/PDIF and an SD card slot.

                        Networking is just as good with wired Gigabit Ethernet, Dual band 802.11ac Wi-Fi and BT 4.0.

                        Android 6.0 is once more the selected operating system.



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                        Media Player – Remote

                        Y8 has a modern design that looks like it consists of four separate pieces stuck together in a non-perfect manner. It is not something extravagant and can be placed anywhere without drawing attention. Its dark color also assists towards that direction.

                        It is made of plastic and although the quality is good, for the price range (`$140) and the grade A specs, an aluminum chassis would be a better match.

                        All connections are found on the back and left side. On the left you will find the USB 3.0 and USB C ports alongside the SD card slot and at the back 2x USB 2.0 ports, 1x HDMI 2.0, LAN, S/PDIF and power port.

                        The remote is nice. It has a nice grip, and the rubberized keys have a nice feel. You will also find a set of handy numeric keys. There is also a learning mode (described at the back of the remote) for the five keys at the top.



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                        Menus – Settings

                        Yundoo definitely made an effort to make the GUI look different. It has five main screens (Home, Recommended, Online, Local, Settings) with big colorful icons for each application. The user can add shortcuts for his favorite applications as well for each screen. Default theme is dark colored and there are options for three more.

                        Settings menu is the classic one we usually find in all recent media boxes but with colored icons instead of the gray ones. Oddly enough, we could not find resolution or digital out options. After a bit of searching, in android’s classic menu we were able to set the appropriate resolution (the device boots in 720p) but we were not able to find a digital out menu (more on that later).

                        The rest of the settings are in the right place and setting up the Y8 according to your setup should be quick and easy.

                        There is an OTA firmware upgrade option but we didn’t receive one during our tests.



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                        Testing

                        We want to make it clear from the start. Yundoo Y8 is fast and that is something that you can literally see from the first boot. In less than ten seconds you are ready to browse through the main screens and launch any application you want. We have never seen anything similar before since it usually took more than thirty seconds to boot to the main screen.

                        Yundoo is promising more than 75000 Antutu score points and our unit even topped that with a result of 78000 (and a 2540 Geekbench multi-core score). The CPU score especially is very high and the addition of 4GB of RAM results a blazing fast processing combination.

                        As expected, playback of all popular audio files (mp3/FLAC) was an easy task for the hexa-core processor.

                        Regarding video playback, it performed admirably. Both 4K and full HD video files had perfect playback (excluding some rare 4K encodings like 10bit, HECV @60fps and some more) and 24p motion was handled very well. Unfortunately no auto frame rate switching is supported.

                        Regarding audio out, it seems that Yundoo released the Y8 model for direct connection to the TV. The absence of digital out settings resulted a stereo only PCM out. Down mixing has perfect though from all types of codecs (including HD Audio ones). We also installed FTMC (fork of KODI designed for Rockchip SoCs) but we still could not get anything more than stereo out. This of course will not affect the majority of users and may be fixed in a future update.

                        Wi-Fi performance was stellar with perfect 1080p file playback, and via wired LAN we had perfect hiccup free playback of all high bit-rate movie backups.

                        USB 3.0 and C had very good writing speeds (copy of big file) >33mb/sec

                        Gaming performance is also very good with decent frame rates even in the most demanding games.

                        Overall, Yundoo Y8 is a very fast device. It seems that RK3399 has no match in processing speed and it shows (with the assistance of 4GB of RAM) in all tasks.



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                        Android

                        The Marshmallow version of Android is installed and you can install any application you want from the (installed) Play Store.

                        There are several other 3rd party applications installed (TV store, K-addons File manager, Easy clean) that will make your life easier.

                        All Play Store apps had great performance with the exception of You-Tube that had laggy playback. This probably has to do with software optimization to take advantage of the new but powerful RK3399 and Mali-T860. We should note that if you install You-Tube from FTMC, playback is quite good and acceptable.

                        After the first boot, you will find ~25GB available to install apps and games.



                        Summary

                        Yundoo Y8 is a power house. Although some optimizations are still needed (audio pass-through, You-Tube) it has great performance as it is, especially for users that intend to connect it directly to the TV set. Rockchip’s new SoC combined with 4GB of RAM provide excellent performance in all aspects that is easy to see in real life.

                        Premium specs (RK3399, 4GB RAM, 32GB ROM,USB 3.0, USB-C) carry also a semi-premium price tag that is eventually justified if you appreciate top performance and almost zero lags.



                        Source:http://mediaplayers.gr/yundoo-y8/

                        Last edited by trebor; 21 March 2017, 21:08. Reason: Must Nicer just to post the review

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                          #27
                          after so many amlogic boxes i want to try this but price is high

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                            #28
                            Heya,

                            Has anyone tried SPMC or FTMC/ 4K videos or movies? Does the Mali-T860MP give the needed boost?
                            S912 flavour had been disappointing(fail) with and laggy without without acceleration for 4K movies.
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                            * While I'm asking, is the sustained wifi bandwidth good?

                            Reap

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                              #29
                              Using preinstalled fork of kodi, there were no issues with 4k playback of normal encodings.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by trebor View Post
                                Heat Sink not fitted to well to much pad and riding up.
                                what size is for this fun cooling?



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