Minix official release the NEO X8 and X8S Quad Core Android TV BOX Power By Amlogic S802 and S802H

[bolek]

thanks!

[alwaysbless]

We need a standard checklist anytime a new device is being reviewed that way there isnt a million random questions and answers sprinkled throughout the thread / subforum. Here are a few things that I consider important in testing a new device. If MINIX, Geekbuying or anyone else can answer these questions then it should give a decent overview of the performance in comparison with other s89 devices (which is where most of all of these bugs were pulled from).

Networking:

(1) Ethernet speeds - What are they in comparison with other devices on the same LAN?
(2) 2.4ghz / 5ghz speeds - What is the range? what are the speeds in comparison with other devices on the same WLAN?
(3) Bluetooth - What is the range? Are devices remembered after a reboot?
(4) Mac addresses for Wifi / Eth / Bluetooth - Do they retain the same address after a reboot?
(5) NFS and CIFS protocols - Are they supported? do shares mount correctly? - Confirmed these protocols are not working with current MINIX kernel.

GUI:

(6) Brightness of display - Is it adjustable? is it hard coded? if so, is it within normal range or too dark / light?
(7) Orientation - Do all apps force to landscape or do we have the portrait bug doing its dance?

Video / Audio:

(8) Audio pass through - MX player, XBMC and stock video player is it working? which formats are being decoded correctly?
(9) Netflix quality - Is it HD? Does it support dts? - Confirmed Netflix playback is ONLY in SD (appears to be an issue w/ Netflix and not the device itself)
(10) Resolution / Refresh rate / FPS - Is video playback smooth with all resolutions / refresh rates? Does video playback smooth @ 1080/24 on a 50 or 60hz TV? Are we seeing dropped frames?
(11) File formats - MP4, AVI, MKV AND ISO/3D ISO? (How do these play w/ Amcodec enabled? I know there are many other factors involved but a basic test should be sufficient)

Hardware:

(12) USB Storage - Which FS are supported out of the box?
(13) LED - Does the devices led remain on even after the unit is shutdown / is it too bright?
(14) Standby - Does box wake itself from standby automatically?
(15) Keyboard - Which air mouses / keyboards are confirmed working with functioning key layout?
(16) Heat test - Run a slot machine game (or really any other CPU/GPU intensive app) for 10 minutes straight and check temp by hand - is it cool? is it warm? has performance been effected?
(17) HDMI input / output - Does video cut out randomly or not display at all after a certain period of time / moving the cable?
(18) Webcams - Does it support webcams? if so, which models have been tested and are proven to be working?
(19) Power consumption - What is it during idle / load? Is it steady or do we see spikes?

Software:

(20) CPU frequency - What is minimum? Does it scale correctly if rooted? - Kernel is confirmed to still have a min frequency of 24mhz
(21) Kernel - Is it still meant for a smart phone or has it been optimized for ATVs? -- Kernel is confirmed to still be optimized for a smart phone and not ATV's
(22) Flash video - Does firefox work properly with flash?
(23) Date and time - Are they able to be changed to areas outside of china? Does it retain this settings change after a reboot?
(24) Paid apps - Can you purchase or install paid / previously paid for application?

Feel free to add anything else you can think of guys. If we can get the list up to 25 questions we can assign each question a weight of 1-4 and try and get a rough estimate of where it lands on a scale of 1-100.

[Arbelzapf]

Some info about power consumption (in different states) might be nice

[Batfink32]

Re: Minix official release the NEO X8 and X8S Quad Core Android TV BOX Power By Amlogic S802 and S802H

We need a standard checklist anytime a new device is being reviewed that way there isnt a million random questions and answers sprinkled throughout the thread / subforum. Here are a few things that I consider important in testing a new device. If MINIX, Geekbuying or anyone else can answer these questions then it should give a decent overview of the performance in comparison with other s89 devices (which is where most of all of these bugs were pulled from).

(1) Ethernet speeds - What are they in comparison with other devices on the same LAN?
(2) 2.4ghz / 5ghz speeds - What is the range? what are the speeds in comparison with other devices on the same WLAN?
(3) Audio pass through - MX player, XBMC and stock video player is it working? which formats are being decoded correctly?
(4) Bluetooth - What is the range? Are devices remembered after a reboot?
(5)Mac addresses for Wifi / Eth / Bluetooth - Do they retain the same address after a reboot
(6) Orientation - Do all apps force to landscape or do we have the portrait bug doing its dance?
(7) USB Storage - Which fs are supported out of the box
(8) Netflix quality - Is it HD? Does it support dts?
(9) LED - Does the devices led remain on even after the unit is unpowered / is it too bright
(10) Brightness of display - Is it adjustable? is it hard coded? if so, is it within normal range or too dark / light
(11) Flash video - Does firefox work properly with flash?
(12) File formats - MP4, AVI, MKV AND ISO - How do these play? (I know there are many other factors involved but a basic test should be sufficient)
(13) Standby - Does box wake itself from standby automatically?
(14) Keyboard - Which air mouses / keyboards are confirmed working with functioning key layout
(15) Heat test - Run a slot machine game (or really any other CPU/GPU intensive app) for 10 minutes straight and check temp by hand - is it cool? is it warm? has performance been effected?
(16) Paid apps - Can you purchase or install paid / previously paid for application?
(17) HDMI input / output - Does video cut out randomly or not display at all after a certain period of time / moving the cable?
(18) CPU frequency - What is minimum? Does it scale correctly if rooted?
(19) Kernel - Is it still meant for a smart phone or has it been optimized for ATVs?
(20) Webcams - Does it support webcams? if so, which models have been tested and are proven to be working?
(21) Date and time - Are they able to be changed to areas outside of china? Does it retain this settings change after a reboot?

Feel free to add anything else you can think of guys

Good questions. If track record has anything to do with it then I imagine the X8 will need the help of the devs from here to fix its problems.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

[strjaz]

Also interested in the question play 3D content, it BD3D ISO

[MINIX]

Good questions. If track record has anything to do with it then I imagine the X8 will need the help of the devs from here to fix its problems.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Interesting... usually we provide our sources to developers because they think ours are bettter...

[MINIX]

Minix official release the NEO X8 and X8S Quad Core Android TV BOX Power By A...

We need a standard checklist anytime a new device is being reviewed that way there isnt a million random questions and answers sprinkled throughout the thread / subforum. Here are a few things that I consider important in testing a new device. If MINIX, Geekbuying or anyone else can answer these questions then it should give a decent overview of the performance in comparison with other s89 devices (which is where most of all of these bugs were pulled from).

(1) Ethernet speeds - What are they in comparison with other devices on the same LAN?
(2) 2.4ghz / 5ghz speeds - What is the range? what are the speeds in comparison with other devices on the same WLAN?
(3) Audio pass through - MX player, XBMC and stock video player is it working? which formats are being decoded correctly?
(4) Bluetooth - What is the range? Are devices remembered after a reboot?
(5)Mac addresses for Wifi / Eth / Bluetooth - Do they retain the same address after a reboot
(6) Orientation - Do all apps force to landscape or do we have the portrait bug doing its dance?
(7) USB Storage - Which fs are supported out of the box
(8) Netflix quality - Is it HD? Does it support dts?
(9) LED - Does the devices led remain on even after the unit is unpowered / is it too bright
(10) Brightness of display - Is it adjustable? is it hard coded? if so, is it within normal range or too dark / light
(11) Flash video - Does firefox work properly with flash?
(12) File formats - MP4, AVI, MKV AND ISO/3D ISO? (How do these play w/ Amcodec enabled? I know there are many other factors involved but a basic test should be sufficient)
(13) Standby - Does box wake itself from standby automatically?
(14) Keyboard - Which air mouses / keyboards are confirmed working with functioning key layout
(15) Heat test - Run a slot machine game (or really any other CPU/GPU intensive app) for 10 minutes straight and check temp by hand - is it cool? is it warm? has performance been effected?
(16) Paid apps - Can you purchase or install paid / previously paid for application?
(17) HDMI input / output - Does video cut out randomly or not display at all after a certain period of time / moving the cable?
(18) CPU frequency - What is minimum? Does it scale correctly if rooted?
(19) Kernel - Is it still meant for a smart phone or has it been optimized for ATVs?
(20) Webcams - Does it support webcams? if so, which models have been tested and are proven to be working?
(21) Date and time - Are they able to be changed to areas outside of china? Does it retain this settings change after a reboot?
(22) Power consumption - What is it during idle / load? Is it steady or do we see spikes?
(23) Resolution / Refresh rate / FPS - Is video playback smooth with all resolutions / refresh rates? Does video playback smooth @ 1080/24 on a 50 or 60hz TV? Are we seeing dropped frames?
(24)
(25)

Feel free to add anything else you can think of guys. If we can get the list up to 25 questions we can assign each question a weight of 1-4 and try and get a rough estimate of where it lands on a scale of 1-100.

I'll come back to answer when you finished the list, right now 90% of your questions are +ve to us and the remaining 10% is unknown (e.g. Netflix HD, I would rather say No instead of giving a false hope to our fans). And I think most of your questions will be covered by reviews.

[no_spam_for_me]

Interesting... usually we provide our sources to developers because they think ours are bettter...

Maybe a better BASIS

[Finless]

Interesting... usually we provide our sources to developers because they think ours are bettter...

This has been the case before except for RK KitKat. I think Minix did not want to proceed with KitKat on their X7 which is understandable considering how much work it needed from the RK SDK release.

Bob

[georget]

@alwaysbless

"(15) Heat test - Run a slot machine game (or really any other CPU/GPU intensive app) for 10 minutes straight and check temp by hand - is it cool? is it warm? has performance been effected?"

That is a great list to use a reference. Fos consistency sake, what slot machine program are you using? Does it have a good attract mode so it can run without interaction? Thanks.

[Arbelzapf]

Will the xbox360 wireless controllers work out of the box?

[alwaysbless]

@alwaysbless

"(15) Heat test - Run a slot machine game (or really any other CPU/GPU intensive app) for 10 minutes straight and check temp by hand - is it cool? is it warm? has performance been effected?"

That is a great list to use a reference. Fos consistency sake, what slot machine program are you using? Does it have a good attract mode so it can run without interaction? Thanks.

Monopoly slots its free. If this or any ATV can handle that game for 10 min straight without exploding or getting so hot it burns you than over heating shouldnt be an issue.

*List has been updated with some findings per bobs ported MINIX rom.*

[TMx]

Monopoly slots its free. If this or any ATV can handle that game for 10 min straight without exploding or getting so hot it burns you than over heating shouldnt be an issue.

*List has been updated with some findings per bobs ported MINIX rom.*

[Finless]

We need a standard checklist anytime a new device is being reviewed that way there isnt a million random questions and answers sprinkled throughout the thread / subforum. Here are a few things that I consider important in testing a new device. If MINIX, Geekbuying or anyone else can answer these questions then it should give a decent overview of the performance in comparison with other s89 devices (which is where most of all of these bugs were pulled from).

Networking:

(1) Ethernet speeds - What are they in comparison with other devices on the same LAN?
(2) 2.4ghz / 5ghz speeds - What is the range? what are the speeds in comparison with other devices on the same WLAN?
(3) Bluetooth - What is the range? Are devices remembered after a reboot?
(4) Mac addresses for Wifi / Eth / Bluetooth - Do they retain the same address after a reboot?
(5) NFS and CIFS protocols - Are they supported? do shares mount correctly? - Confirmed these protocols are not working with current MINIX kernel.

GUI:

(6) Brightness of display - Is it adjustable? is it hard coded? if so, is it within normal range or too dark / light?
(7) Orientation - Do all apps force to landscape or do we have the portrait bug doing its dance?

Video / Audio:

(8) Audio pass through - MX player, XBMC and stock video player is it working? which formats are being decoded correctly?
(9) Netflix quality - Is it HD? Does it support dts? - Confirmed Netflix playback is ONLY in SD (appears to be an issue w/ Netflix and not the device itself)
(10) Resolution / Refresh rate / FPS - Is video playback smooth with all resolutions / refresh rates? Does video playback smooth @ 1080/24 on a 50 or 60hz TV? Are we seeing dropped frames?
(11) File formats - MP4, AVI, MKV AND ISO/3D ISO? (How do these play w/ Amcodec enabled? I know there are many other factors involved but a basic test should be sufficient)

Hardware:

(12) USB Storage - Which FS are supported out of the box?
(13) LED - Does the devices led remain on even after the unit is shutdown / is it too bright?
(14) Standby - Does box wake itself from standby automatically?
(15) Keyboard - Which air mouses / keyboards are confirmed working with functioning key layout?
(16) Heat test - Run a slot machine game (or really any other CPU/GPU intensive app) for 10 minutes straight and check temp by hand - is it cool? is it warm? has performance been effected?
(17) HDMI input / output - Does video cut out randomly or not display at all after a certain period of time / moving the cable?
(18) Webcams - Does it support webcams? if so, which models have been tested and are proven to be working?
(19) Power consumption - What is it during idle / load? Is it steady or do we see spikes?

Software:

(20) CPU frequency - What is minimum? Does it scale correctly if rooted? - Kernel is confirmed to still have a min frequency of 24mhz
(21) Kernel - Is it still meant for a smart phone or has it been optimized for ATVs? -- Kernel is confirmed to still be optimized for a smart phone and not ATV's
(22) Flash video - Does firefox work properly with flash?
(23) Date and time - Are they able to be changed to areas outside of china? Does it retain this settings change after a reboot?
(24) Paid apps - Can you purchase or install paid / previously paid for application?

Feel free to add anything else you can think of guys. If we can get the list up to 25 questions we can assign each question a weight of 1-4 and try and get a rough estimate of where it lands on a scale of 1-100.

You should make this a new post honestly.....
Also if this is directed only at Minix? My thoughts are if you want to really make this work a new post with device reports by name.

Bob

[alwaysbless]

You should make this a new post honestly.....
Also if this is directed only at Minix? My thoughts are if you want to really make this work a new post with device reports by name.

Bob

Yea youre right, good idea bob. Its intended for any new device thats launching and needs to be reviewed really I just originated the thought in this thread lol. Ill set up a new one in the main subforum and users who want to apply this questionnaire to other devices can create separate threads in their device subforum.