[ROM] QUICKSHOT V3.1 by The Nitro Team for Minix Neo X7

[leolas]

Re: [ROM] QUICKSHOT V3.1 by The Nitro Team for Minix Neo X7

Sorry for my bad english, i suppose i was not clear.
I did installed various 1080p kernel using quickshot-update.zip method. Update seems to work correctly and my zip file is renamed but i'm always in 720p whatever the kernel i use.
I'm sure i'm doing something wrong, that's why i want to know if there is a way to know which kernel is installed on my device, in order to check what's happening.

can you explain why do you think you are on 720p? icons size? what said antutu benchmark or xbmc ?

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leolas

[leolas]

Re: [ROM] QUICKSHOT V3.1 by The Nitro Team for Minix Neo X7

I do not have this problem but I am stepping stone,
because leolas recently said which would have introduced a feature in the settings to see the type of kernel used.
I hope that this feature will be introduced soon, maybe as an upgrade ...
But you see where you are in 720? You have a great TV with the smaller image in center ?

daemonium has almost ready the patch, but we are very busy this week, we will made an update when we have some free time.

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leolas

[abcvince]

can you explain why do you think you are on 720p? icons size? what said antutu benchmark or xbmc ?

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leolas

My screen says that input signal is 1280x720. But you are right XMBC says resolution is 1920x1080. How is this possible ? And when i look at my screen i feel like having 720p not 1080p (no difference with a 720p kernel even if XMBC says resolution is not the same).

For information my minix is connected to my computer monitor which have a native resolution of 1680x1050 but this monitor is able to dispay 1080p signal (and in this case it says input is 1920x1080) for example when it is connected to my PS3.

[leolas]

Re: [ROM] QUICKSHOT V3.1 by The Nitro Team for Minix Neo X7

My screen says that input signal is 1280x720. But you are right XMBC says resolution is 1920x1080. How is this possible ? And when i look at my screen i feel like having 720p not 1080p (no difference with a 720p kernel even if XMBC says resolution is not the same).

For information my minix is connected to my computer monitor which have a native resolution of 1680x1050 but this monitor is able to dispay 1080p signal (and in this case it says input is 1920x1080) for example when it is connected to my PS3.

OK, if you have a no full HD screen, then the device can't made 1080p native, your screen will scale the resolution in your ps3, in the minix with this rom if your screen don't report 1080p capable you will not got real 1080p output. Your situation is special.

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leolas

[abcvince]

So if i understand well, there is no way to ignore screen capabilities and to force 1080p even if screen reports not compatible ?
(In my case screen may report not compatible but display on my PS3 is far nicer in 1080p than in 720p)

[rdsok]

So if i understand well, there is no way to ignore screen capabilities and to force 1080p even if screen reports not compatible ?
(In my case screen may report not compatible but display on my PS3 is far nicer in 1080p than in 720p)

You can not make your screen 1080p with software... 1080p resolution is 1920x1080 ... your screen is only capable of displaying 1680x1050... and that is a hardware limitation which software can not change.

[abcvince]

Ok once again i think i'm not able to explain my problem clearly.

My screen native resolution is 1680x1050, that's a fact. An other fact is that my screen is able to display an input image in 1080p by downscaling it (i'm sure of that because this is how my PS3 is configured, and in this case in the menu of my screen, input stream is described as 1080p).

My problem is that with a 1080p kernel, in the menu of my screen input stream is described as 720p, and i can assure you that the image displayed is in 720p not in 1080p (the dfference of quality is quite obvious).

My understanding of leolas answer is this problem is because my screen "says" to the kernel that it is not able to display a 1080p image. Then the kernel don't even try to display 1080p but reduce resolution to 720p and send a 720p image.
If my understanding is ok, then my question is: is it possible for the kernel not to listen screen capabilites and to force resolution to 1080p whatever the screen connected ?

Once again sorry for my bad english and i hope this time my explaination is a bit clearer...

[leolas]

Re: [ROM] QUICKSHOT V3.1 by The Nitro Team for Minix Neo X7

You can not make your screen 1080p with software... 1080p resolution is 1920x1080 ... your screen is only capable of displaying 1680x1050... and that is a hardware limitation which software can not change.

+1. You will not notice any improvement using 1080p kernel if you don't have 1080p screen. When you use a 1080p kernel internally the device is working at 1080p, rendering and drawing almost double of pixels, and after, being scaled down to be send to the screen. That make no sense.

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leolas

[rdsok]

If my understanding is ok, then my question is: is it possible for the kernel not to listen screen capabilites and to force resolution to 1080p whatever the screen connected ?

Once again sorry for my bad english and i hope this time my explaination is a bit clearer...

One last time... it can not force your screen to display a resolution it doesn't support... end of story. It can display 1080p IF the screen is capable of it... or the next highest resolution it supports is 720p.

If you can't understand that... then the issue is only with your understanding of it, it can't be explained less technically.

[abcvince]

My screen is able to display an 1080p input stream since my PS3 is configured in 1080p. Ok the visual result is not real 1080p because my screen can't display 1080 lines but only 1050. But the fact i want to point is that my screen can handle 1080p input stream (by downscaling it to a resolution with a width of 1680 pixels and a height of 1680/(16/9)=945 pixels, which is far better than 720p).

My screen internal software may report it is not able to handle 1080p, but that's not true since when i send 1080p to my screen i have an image, and i agree this image is not a real 1080 lines image but it's neither a 720 lines image, it's in fact a 945 lines image (1080p downscaled to my screen native resolution).

An other way to see my problem is : PS3 can send a 1080p image to my screen, why minix can't ?

[kRel]

One last time... it can not force your screen to display a resolution it doesn't support... end of story. It can display 1080p IF the screen is capable of it... or the next highest resolution it supports is 720p.

If you can't understand that... then the issue is only with your understanding of it, it can't be explained less technically.

There must be a reason hardware, so if I connect my minix to my 50 'full HD appears the inscription 1920x1080 and if I connect it to my monitor 27 "for PC with HDMI input, the monitor alerts 1280x720 ...
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daemonium has almost ready the patch, but we are very busy this week, we will made an update when we have some free time.
leolas

Ok! Thanks anyway for all that you do.
If I knew where to put my hands, I'd gladly help

[rdsok]

My screen is able to display an 1080p input stream since my PS3 is configured in 1080p. Ok the visual result is not real 1080p because my screen can't display 1080 lines but only 1050. But the fact i want to point is that my screen can handle 1080p input stream (by downscaling it to a resolution with a width of 1680 pixels and a height of 1680/(16/9)=945 pixels, which is far better than 720p).

My screen internal software may report it is not able to handle 1080p, but that's not true since when i send 1080p to my screen i have an image, and i agree this image is not a real 1080 lines image but it's neither a 720 lines image, it's in fact a 945 lines image (1080p downscaled to my screen native resolution).

An other way to see my problem is : PS3 can send a 1080p image to my screen, why minix can't ?

No it isn't... your PS3 is scaling it back to a resolution that your monitor supports... it isn't real 1080p it is less.

The kernels used with the Androids don't have resolutions between the 720p and the 1080p... so you only get the highest resolution that your monitor ( and the kernel ) will support which is 720p

[abcvince]

PS3 don't have resolution between 720p and 1080p (if i forgot interlaced resolutions), and plugged with my PS3 my monitor menu says input stream is 1080p. With minix plugged my monitor says input stream is 720p.

[leolas]

PS3 don't have resolution between 720p and 1080p (if i forgot interlaced resolutions), and plugged with my PS3 my monitor menu says input stream is 1080p. With minix plugged my monitor says input stream is 720p.

Sorry, if you dont have a 1080p capable screen attached, you will not got 1080p with this rom, and I don't know if it can be done with other kk rom

leolas

[rdsok]

I can say... they are full of it... or at the least have absolutely no idea of what they are taling about... it's useless to try to explain it to someone that doesn't listen or want to actually learn