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    Hi Shomari ,

    u know i have a UT4 ??? does it work with it ??? AP6335 ???

    and i like good translated Roms , what about that ???

    A t the Moment i use Mo123 MM Rom , good translated

    and with every update better , + there comes a Ugoos Ver.

    too , so no need to use a LPRom even if it is overclocked .

    I know u make good work , but MM is better for me and the

    important thing i helped a litlle bit .(Translations/German)

    nice Day

    gefattern

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      Originally posted by gefattern View Post
      Hi Shomari ,

      u know i have a UT4 ??? does it work with it ??? AP6335 ???

      and i like good translated Roms , what about that ???

      A t the Moment i use Mo123 MM Rom , good translated

      and with every update better , + there comes a Ugoos Ver.

      too , so no need to use a LPRom even if it is overclocked .

      I know u make good work , but MM is better for me and the

      important thing i helped a litlle bit .(Translations/German)

      nice Day

      gefattern
      I'm aware. And yes, of course my firmware works with AP6335. I don't know if it works with UT4, you'd have to let us know.

      Let's be clear, I never said anything at all about mo123's firmware. Don't turn this into an either or.

      It's now time, again, to make an important distinction.

      I don't receive any compensation from any 'fully loaded' box seller/reseller, or any compensation from any brand or manufacturer.

      mo123 makes firmware for nagrace/ugoos and specifically promotes nagrace/ugoos boxes over all others. His firmware should work optimally with Ugoos/Nagrace, he has a relationship with those brands and does the work of a branding and marketing agent for them in his consistent promotion of their boxes. His branding and marketing work goes hand in hand with his firmware releases. It's a hustle.

      What I do is materially different at all levels.

      And again, the style and approach of my work shows I don't give a damn about gaining users or notoriety.

      I don't 'brand' any of my work. Not because I don't know how to or am incapable. No fancy (or not so fancy) bootanimations bearing my name, no extra setting/framework fields with my name and the name of the brands I work for (because there are none), and I can go on, because there's all kinds of things that are done to 'custom', supposedly independent firmwares that users are not even aware of, and are meant to serve the interests of the brand over all else.

      So please, you were one of my favorite posters here for your willingness to provide feedback and help all users in any way you could.

      But lately you've swerved into making things a 'this vs. that' scenario. And I'm simply not interested in that type of placement or conflict.

      Point is, I'm not in competition with anyone, in an adversarial sense, because I don't do this for compensation of any kind.

      It's my time, my resources, my equipment, my voluntary contributions. No brand partnerships, no 'fully loaded' box seller/reseller relationships, no undisclosed biases and manufacturer relationships - period. There's a reason you don't see me trashing brands all over this forum and Internet like some do, while promoting one specific brand as 'premium' and all others as 'inferior'.

      Be mindful where you get your advice and what/whom you place your trust in.

      It's simple. You use or don't use my firmware, I don't win or lose.

      With other devs here, you're locked into using specific hardware to receive 'independent' firmware support. There's a reason you're locked into buying and using that hardware and only that hardware. And it has nothing to do with project maintenance and ease of deployment.


      It's business.


      And honestly, undisclosed business relationships masked as volunteer efforts that mislead users are an ethically dubious endeavor. Especially when used to trash all other devices in order to better position the ones you have a beneficial relationship with for sales.
      Last edited by Shomari; 16 April 2017, 21:48.

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        The people my posts apply to know who they are. Lately they've been ruining this forum and others across the internet with their misleading and biased posts to benefit their own undisclosed circumstances and ventures.

        You should chill. Users deserve to know how things really work, and if your methods continue to disturb the true and actual, non-commercial volunteer work that happens here and other places, to the detriment of sound, accurate, unbiased information and progress, we'll be exposing a lot of things in different places.

        One other thing, I left Freaktab for a period of almost two years due to threads like this, only having recently returned less then a year ago.

        Pretty soon I'll be on another voluntary hiatus if this nonsense keeps up.

        My equipments runs wonderfully and meets all my needs. When I need a new feature/configuration, I can adapt my devices to accomplish my needs. I don't need to sacrifice my time, energy and resources to do something if it results in net negative outcomes - because there are no business/financial pressures driving what I do.

        When it stops being fun and fulfilling, I stop.

        Pretty much almost there.

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          Hi Shomari ,

          dont know what is the Problem , i only wanted to say that i use

          for my Box MosRoms , more not , maybe you have to come

          down and smoke a J.....t , too , because i did not want to

          make you aggressiv or else . That was a clear Example for

          missunderstood .

          hope all is good now

          greetings

          gefattern

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            Originally posted by gefattern View Post
            Hi Shomari ,

            dont know what is the Problem , i only wanted to say that i use

            for my Box MosRoms , more not , maybe you have to come

            down and smoke a J.....t , too , because i did not want to

            make you aggressiv or else . That was a clear Example for

            missunderstood .

            hope all is good now

            greetings

            gefattern
            I don't need drugs, and your offer of them is unwelcome, no thanks.

            There's nothing aggressive about my post, and no opportunity to 'come down', because I was never excited. Despite your nonsensical accusation, a post announcing withdrawal from an engagement is exactly the opposite of aggression.

            Again, and for the last time, I'm not, and never have been, interested in what choice of firmware you make. It affects me none, either way.

            Any more passive aggressive nonsense from you and I'll be forced to find a way to place your account on ignore in an attempt to at least prolong my time here for some while longer.

            EDIT: there's apparently no way for me to place a user on ignore.

            I don't see myself lasting here much longer. Plain and simply have a much more fulfilling life and affairs to occupy myself with that don't involve protracted trolling and petty beefs to preserve masked interests.

            Not at all sticking around for that garbage.

            I post my work so users can have choice. Not to promote myself, promote any brand, trash other brands, or corner any segment of the market.

            If you like one firmware versus another, why don't you simply post the positives of that firmware in the relevant places, instead of the constant flurry of negatives you've been posting here?

            Especially considering the context and origins of that which you praise.
            Last edited by Shomari; 16 April 2017, 23:16.

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              Ended. Everyone stay on topic firat person off will get some time to re read rules.
              Many devices now mk902ii/Shield/Mk68 /Ugoos/neox5/minix5 (yes they still work lol) mk80 no it doesnt work lol.

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                Originally posted by scooter2014 View Post
                Ended. Everyone stay on topic firat person off will get some time to re read rules.
                It was about time Mod...

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                  Originally posted by jit18 View Post

                  It was about time Mod...
                  Try having it be your thread being shitted on and trolled. I've been in this little corner of the RK3368 section of the forum in peace for over 7 months and don't bother anyone in their threads, yet somehow all the trolling finds its way to my thread.

                  Unfortunately, I've been here before on this forum. Things have changed but there's clearly still issues..

                  EDIT: finally found a way to place users on ignore. Good. Because there's no way I was sticking around otherwise.

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                    Back to topic..

                    I have tested both Shomari Roms and Mo123 Roms...

                    Latest Shomari Rom (reboot fix) has similar performance as Mo123 Latest Rom... (about 42K Antutu Points).

                    Mo123 Rom doesn't boot on Z4 unless you plug in OTG Port... (you can also loop to another USB Port of the Box). Remote also doesn't work.
                    I suppose its due to false Recourse file... but since i dont know of any MM Recource.img for the Z4 there is no solution for this...


                    Shomari V2 Rom (Reboot bug) has the fastest speed i have seen until know... (i tested every possible rk3368 Rom that boots on Z4 ). Antutu score 48K.

                    I use a specific youtube Video for testing as well....

                    Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.


                    Until now the only Rom that plays it without lagging ist Shomari V2 (Reboot bug),i didn't test the Previous versions.

                    So... if you want ultimate speed there is no way around V2... but the Rom needs some debugging.





                    I also think that the performance boost for the UI and The youtube streaming comes from the RAM Speed advandage in The V2 Rom (5k vs 4K Antutu points)..

                    Maybe you can find a golden middle between performance and functionality/Stability if you keep the RAM Speed Modifications and let the GPU work at normal speed...
                    I think the GPU is strong enough for Video Performance and UI... and this box was not made for Games for sure...

                    Is it possible to fix the Reboot Bug (lets call it so) but keep the RAM Mods and sacrifice the GPU Mods (or the other way)?



                    Thanks and Keep both the good Work...

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                      Following Shomari since october true octacore. All respect to Shomari for he is one of the very few developers caring to make RK3368 usable. Where the original Firmware makers already left RK3368 behind to die if it was not for the efforts, time and resources Shomari puts into the RK3368 i would have be done along time ago with this box.

                      Im not always responding and not always able to test immediatley but i do try to do my best. We have gained so many since October release i just wanted to ask to everyone not using this firmware to step back and not abuse this thread. It has become filled with offtopic talk, so please stop and let everyone that use's shomaris Firmware keep this thread clean to find information and such. Thanks again.

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                        I'm too, super work done !!

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                          I have a question, do you need a boot loader in the core octet Z4 3368? . I'm currently upgraded to Coolio.

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                            does anyone else in this thread have this box? if you do, have you been able to successfully flash/boot Shomari's firmware, or any other rk3368 firmware? I haven't been able to boot any firmware other than the stock for this box, and I just want to see if anyone else has it, and if so have you been able to boot Shomari's or any custom rom/firmware.
                            thanks in advance for any replies.

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                              Originally posted by Shomari View Post

                              Power supply, power supply, power supply.

                              Alot of this has already been covered in the seven months I've been doing public releases. The changes in my dtb and boot, if you're using that, too, are much more comprehensive than just cpu. Additionally, as explained before, changes in boot have code dependencies with dtb, kernel, and system. Your firmware is not a proper port in that sense because it uses major elements of ugoos firmware. It's important to understand this will create unknown and possibly undesirable results.

                              Intentional crashes should only be done in a debugging environment (with debugging tools, logs, etc.) Crashing for the sake of crashing is fruitless. You should have logs, carefully monitor your components and determine what is the cause and adjust for a fix.

                              When I first started the cpu hack project, I had nasty segfaults almost instantly, resulting in crashed programs, hung systems, and beyond that some kernel panics. I covered all that.

                              And - power supply, power supply, power supply. If you want surefire stability as far as abrupt shutdowns go, change from the stock power supply. I've been overclocking RK since the RK3066. We've always understood with more performance comes more demand on current. You need higher amperage. There's a reason I don't release builds clocked at 1752, though I have them; ease of use for the user, and power demands. This too has been covered before.

                              ​​​​​
                              Yes I start already a research for a power supply. But have to find a good universal one, I could also use for other things (in case of). Changing voltage and polarity, etc. I already got such a power supply but it has only 1V, 1,5V, 3V, 4,5V, 6V, 9V and 12V. But 4,5V is to low and 6V to much.


                              Here another test with my shitty slow Z4 box. With my own ROM I get always only 30K @ AnTuTu 6.3.3 (WTF?)


                              [ Test Result ]

                              ROM: Shomari Z4 4PDA (OC & T8C)
                              Power: Stock power supply 5V 2A

                              Stress CPU: OC > Reboot after 20 - 30 sec.
                              Stress CPU: T8C > Reboot after 10 sec. Click image for larger version  Name:	1_Shomari_Z4_4PDA.png Views:	1 Size:	45.0 KB ID:	641762


                              Click image for larger version  Name:	OC_Z4-4PDA_antutu.png Views:	1 Size:	30.3 KB ID:	641763
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                              Click image for larger version  Name:	T8C_Z4-4PDA_antutu.png Views:	1 Size:	26.4 KB ID:	641765
                              Click image for larger version  Name:	T8C_Z4-4PDA_bonsai.png Views:	1 Size:	357.6 KB ID:	641766


                              Click image for larger version  Name:	Z4-4PDA_antutu-video1.png Views:	1 Size:	86.2 KB ID:	641767
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                              Click image for larger version  Name:	Z4-4PDA_antutu-video3.png Views:	1 Size:	52.3 KB ID:	641769





                              Pretty shitty results, compared to yours.

                              I also opened the box after I re-flashd my own V2 rom and did some Stress CPU tests again and checked also Kernel Auditor.

                              After a few minutes the clock speed went pretty down (both cluster max 600) but it stayed stable. Quit the test after 3h. But that small heatsink went also pretty hot. Maybe this box has an heat issue, or the heatsink isn't fixed properly? Will check also for a better heatsink, that covers the ram as well. The box has also this big metal plate inside. I think it's something like a heat collector. Because of that, there isn't much space for higher heatsink. Or I have to remove the metal plate!? Will check.

                              Android is Java on Linux. Lets say splitted in 3 level. On the top the bling bling APK (level 3). In the middle the Java Framework (level 2) and at thebasement Linux (level 1)

                              So there are a lot of options to port a rom. Especial while the interfaces between these levels have to talk always in the same way.
                              And my first problem was not the dtd, becasue I dind't touch any of the 1 level at the beginnig. Only Framework and my level 3 bling bling.
                              To get samba and App2SD running, I had only to change to vold, Because in your ROM, there isn't a mount point for external_SD to use as system mount point. Only as removable SD card.
                              I know the code of your ROM already pretty good. Mostly pretty clean. Only a few hidden fully loaded corps. But not used at all.

                              BTW I search already for a full dump of the V99 Hero. But so far no luck. But right now I first have to check why my box is so damn slow ...
                              edit
                              Do you know the reason why AnTuTu plays no sound? Or only a few time annoying noise. like you send raw audio to spdif but it accepts only pcm. Not with your rom. I'm struggling a bit with my other Yundo Y1 S912 project.


                              My contributions to the community
                              [ ROMs ] Z4 RK3368 - android TV (ATV) | MXQ PRO 4K - p201 - android TV (ATV) | Yundo Y1 S912 - android TV (ATV) not yet released
                              [ Tutorials ] Bootup logo Amlogic S912 devices | Redefine any Keyboard, Gamepad, Remote Control

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                                Originally posted by jit18 View Post
                                Back to topic..

                                I have tested both Shomari Roms and Mo123 Roms...

                                Latest Shomari Rom (reboot fix) has similar performance as Mo123 Latest Rom... (about 42K Antutu Points).

                                Mo123 Rom doesn't boot on Z4 unless you plug in OTG Port... (you can also loop to another USB Port of the Box). Remote also doesn't work.
                                I suppose its due to false Recourse file... but since i dont know of any MM Recource.img for the Z4 there is no solution for this...


                                Shomari V2 Rom (Reboot bug) has the fastest speed i have seen until know... (i tested every possible rk3368 Rom that boots on Z4 ). Antutu score 48K.

                                I use a specific youtube Video for testing as well....

                                Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.


                                Until now the only Rom that plays it without lagging ist Shomari V2 (Reboot bug),i didn't test the Previous versions.

                                So... if you want ultimate speed there is no way around V2... but the Rom needs some debugging.





                                I also think that the performance boost for the UI and The youtube streaming comes from the RAM Speed advandage in The V2 Rom (5k vs 4K Antutu points)..

                                Maybe you can find a golden middle between performance and functionality/Stability if you keep the RAM Speed Modifications and let the GPU work at normal speed...
                                I think the GPU is strong enough for Video Performance and UI... and this box was not made for Games for sure...

                                Is it possible to fix the Reboot Bug (lets call it so) but keep the RAM Mods and sacrifice the GPU Mods (or the other way)?



                                Thanks and Keep both the good Work...
                                ... which update shows the banding? The latest from a few days ago?

                                I've said before that's probably a framebuffer issue. I can find a fix but it would require user participation, as I can't replicate anything even close to that on my setup, never have. I hope you understand.

                                Also, mo123's firmware can easily be used with (most of my tweaks) by using the boot and resource from any V2 firmware and slipping into the firmware you want to use it in.

                                In the case of those Nagrace builds, they use a second layer boot image that contains the resource and dtb, and it requires you swap the boot out completely to swap the resource. (unless you know how to replace the dtb inline, which most users don't) Be aware that mo123 and Nagrace may look at this practice negatively; I'm simply informing as to how their firmware structure works, not advocating for or against its decompilation.

                                I don't recommend mixing and matching of images, but if it's what you think would work best for your case, I have no issues at all with it.

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