T428 Study and Research on Experimental Firmwares

[Molle]

I seem to remember that you published a kernel some time ago that solved the stutter for many people. It was solved for those that flashed the android version that came with the sticks, and the finless roms and probably more, I don't remember. It was on this forum I read it, so if I had bothered searching I could probably find it.

If you now say this has not been done, a kernel fix has not been developed by you, then as far as I'm concerned there is no GPL violation.

You may have been thinking about this post.

[Guest]

But what is the difference between a workaround and a fix when it comes to GPL?

I expect that since you know quite a bit about how droidmote works and should work that makes you a good person to spot those bugs.

The source code is already online. custom kernel configuration is not gpl violation. because my source is the leaked source that everyone can download.
but i repeat, in all nexus rom, i used also a standard configuration, because the fix is in the rom.

about droidmote i don't have any problem. it work in any standard android rom, and also in chinese roms i know how to restore the original android input managment system part to solve the central button bug that is not a bug of droidmote but of the chinese rom. All other functions already work very well. As i write above is only an example to show you the bug in the input managment system.

the bugs of input managment system can create problems also on hardware controller and other external input devices.

And yes sure i'm a good person otherwise i don't lose many time of my life to help all the people that like me have bought a device with bug.

[sam321]

The source code is already online. custom kernel configuration is not gpl violation. because my source is the leaked source that everyone can download.
but i repeat, in all nexus rom, i used also a standard configuration, because the fix is in the rom.

about droidmote i don't have any problem. it work in any standard android rom, and also in chinese roms i know how to restore the original android input managment system part to solve the central button bug that is not a bug of droidmote but of the chinese rom. All other functions already work very well. As i write above is only an example to show you the bug in the input managment system.

the bugs of input managment system can create problems also on hardware controller and other external input devices.

kernel configuration is under GPL


gpl-violations.org Source Code Release FAQ




Generally, any sophisticated program is split into many different source code files. During the process of compilation, each of them are compiled into executable code, after which they are linked. This process of compiling and linking individual source code files is generally controlled by scripts. Most often the "make" program is used, whose scripts are generally referred to as "Makefiles".


Also, some programs such as the Linux kernel tend to have compile-time configuration (in case of the Linux kernel the .config file). Since this compile-time configuration undoubtedly controls the process of compilation, you need to include any such compile-time configuration files, too.

[JugsteR]

You may have been thinking about this post.

Thank you, exactly that one yes.

The source code is already online. custom kernel configuration is not gpl violation.
but i repeat, in all nexus rom, i used also a standard configuration, because the fix is in the rom.

about droidmote i don't have any problem. it work in any standard android rom, and also in chinese roms i know how to restore the original android input managment system part to solve the central button bug that is not a bug of droidmote but of the chinese rom.

the bugs of input managment system can create problems also on hardware controller and other external input devices.

This information in the link I gave you earlier says:

What are "scripts used to control compilation"?


Generally, any sophisticated program is split into many different source code files. During the process of compilation, each of them are compiled into executable code, after which they are linked. This process of compiling and linking individual source code files is generally controlled by scripts. Most often the "make" program is used, whose scripts are generally referred to as "Makefiles".
Also, some programs such as the Linux kernel tend to have compile-time configuration (in case of the Linux kernel the .config file). Since this compile-time configuration undoubtedly controls the process of compilation, you need to include any such compile-time configuration files, too.

Now, I am not a native english speaker either, but it seems to me like at least the people at http://gpl-violations.org/ disagree with you about kernel configuration and GPL.

[Guest]

i'm not english speaker i'm sorry, if you want i can delete my kernel from freaktab server, and i can use only the nexus rom with the original kernel of tronsmart.

but i can't see the tronsmart configuration or the configuration of all other rk3188 devices of all sellers

every published rom must have the config of the kernel ? also rom of all other developers ?

[sam321]

i'm not english speaker i'm sorry, if you want i can delete my kernel from freaktab server, and i can use only the nexus rom with the original kernel of tronsmart.

but i can't see the tronsmart configuration or the configuration of all other rk3188 devices of all sellers

every published rom must have the config of the kernel ? also rom of all other developers ?

but you have already released a kernel with the change config therefore under the gpl you are legally required to release the change config, otherwise you are a gpl violater just like rockchip

[JugsteR]

i'm not english speaker i'm sorry, if you want i can delete my kernel from freaktab server, and i can use only the nexus rom with the original kernel of tronsmart.

but i can't see the tronsmart configuration or the configuration of all other rk3188 devices of all sellers

every published rom must have the config of the kernel ? also rom of all other developers ?

I don't want you to delete your kernel. I want you to produce more kernels! I only want to be able compile them myself with your sources and configurations. That is why GPL compliance is important.

but you have already released a kernel with the change config therefore under the gpl you are legally required to release the change config, otherwise you are a gpl violator just like rockchip

Sam, you are stealing my thunder =) It's ok though.

[dc2royce]

Thanks

Strauzo, I regret not thanking your work earlier. I bought this stick and without the help of you and Finless all hope would be lost. Even with proper source i know nothing about development and would be lost. All devs that work on these devices are helping bring value to an otherwise lemon of a device. I was very satisfied with the software that came on my T428 and the seller (GeekBuying)has not responded back to my email asking for a refund. I do not know much about development rules and will not claim to but i do appreciate any and all development(as long as it doesn't result in a brick). Thank you to all with the knowledge to help us end-users.

[Guest]

Strauzo, I regret not thanking your work earlier. I bought this stick and without the help of you and Finless all hope would be lost. Even with proper source i know nothing about development and would be lost. All devs that work on these devices are helping bring value to an otherwise lemon of a device. I was very satisfied with the software that came on my T428 and the seller (GeekBuying)has not responded back to my email asking for a refund. I do not know much about development rules and will not claim to but i do appreciate any and all development(as long as it doesn't result in a brick). Thank you to all with the knowledge to help us end-users.

Thanks to you, these words encourage me to continue and that's what I want. I can do all my best for people like you.

I not work for other developer or for the sellers or for Rockchip, i work for users like you that need my help.

I also like Finless Bob because is the only one that help all, also bad boy like me

Sorry for other, but is the best person in this forum together with leolas.
(also if we have different point of view about some things on the chinese roms )

Thanks.

[Guest]

I'm 16 year old, but i think that you are 4 year old reading this post.

Its a wonder to me that anyone has even little bit of respect for you. I bet you talk to no one like this in REAL LIFE, LOL

[Guest]

Its a wonder to me that anyone has even little bit of respect for you. I bet you talk to no one like this in REAL LIFE, LOL

have you read the post ?

they were laughing at me, what would you have said to my place ?

I think I was too polite. in real life I would have done more

[phjanderson]

STOP!

I'm 16 year old, but i think that you are 4 year old reading this post.

Ok, I already unsubscribed from this thread but I heard that the mud throwing really started now.

Please stop bashing the kid up. He's 16 years old and has his ideals. We all had our ideals when we were 16. Having ideals is not a bad thing. Over the years you learn to be more realistic (God, I sound old now). Strauzo did a lot of work, even if you disagree with how he did it, his intentions are good.

As I said earlier, let's agree to disagree and stop this pointless discussion.
This is strauzo's thread about strauzo's rom/kernel, if you don't like it then stay away!

AGREED EVERYONE?

Thanks!

[d33]

As I said earlier, let's agree to disagree and stop this pointless discussion.
This is strauzo's thread about strauzo's rom/kernel, if you don't like it then stay away!

AGREED EVERYONE?

Thanks!

I second this.

Strauzo's thread about his work, not for arguements. He has his reasons for working the way he does, which does not match the norm. He knows in his heart he has violated GPL but no-one is going to send him to prison for it!

Without Strauzo showing that it was possible to fix the video stutter we would not be here so let's say thankyou to him and leave this thread for further development anouncements/discussions from Strauzo's private development work.

From me - thank you Strauzo

[alexinc]

ok, just my 2cents after reading those postings for week(s) now...

first of all thx to ALL developers contributing to projects refering to hdmi-sticks! no matter if native english speaking or not (i'm neither)...
i simply don't get some things. everybody here agrees that build quality and support of most chinese devices simply doesnt match customers expectations! but we all jumped on the hdmi-stick train because some were hunting for new gadgets or simply are flashing-whores like me. ;-) and we all have in common, that its cheap prices convinced us to get one or another. so no complaining at all, as most of us should have been aware that we'll get what we paid for.
although i'm using your work and being very thankful for every bit you're uploading here, strauzo (besides using droidmote since freaktabs first days ;-) ), i simply dont understand how you still think that rockchip will ever take notice of you/your work or in other words will ever agree to answer your questions and help our community!? lots of other developers and communities already tried to do so and ever failed. conclution: we have to help each other or simply stop using this devices. all of us on freaktab seem to have decided to continue using this gadgets and try to solve different issues with workarounds or sometimes even better solutions than being provided by the manufactorer. so there is only one thing that really counts: sharing is caring! you're always mentioning bob... imagine he wouldnt have started sharing his knowledge on this forum and supporting us simple users. we wouldnt have this community right now!
take a look at xdadevelopers! if every developer over there would keep his skills and secrets for the various devices cause the manufactorer could read their postings, solutions, improvements than there wouldnt be such an active forum there too... get my point? we all respect each other, respect each others work and i'm sure are thankful as hell, but noone should really expect better support by manufactorers through holding back informations on devices they already sold! they are simply not interested anymore as soon as they got your money. you can only judge them by not buying their upcoming devices again and if you're still interested in the device you bought, you could try improving it with the power of a strong community and different views on various problems that need to be solved - including an active communication between its members and sharing ideas! sorry for being offtopic, it just forced me to write those lines after reading nothing else for the last days and wondering what could have happened if all those energy would have been put togethers for creating even better solutions for cheap gadgets!

btw. you all ever played with ug802? this one brought me to hdmi sticks and did cause way more problems than t428. one could say i really love tronsmart compared to my first device, but i also noticed that rockchip didnt move a single bit from their policy - only solutions from freaktab members got better and better, so keep it coming and better unite...

[Guest]

Ok, I already unsubscribed from this thread but I heard that the mud throwing really started now.

Please stop bashing the kid up. He's 16 years old and has his ideals. We all had our ideals when we were 16. Having ideals is not a bad thing. Over the years you learn to be more realistic (God, I sound old now). Strauzo did a lot of work, even if you disagree with how he did it, his intentions are good.

As I said earlier, let's agree to disagree and stop this pointless discussion.
This is strauzo's thread about strauzo's rom/kernel, if you don't like it then stay away!

AGREED EVERYONE?

Thanks!

Thanks. I like your post. and I'm sorry for the bad words, but your post was very offensive to me.
After this post, I do not lose more time in useless and bad conversations.
Because some time i know that i esagerate, but i don't want this.
Although I do the best, I am always criticized.

Thanks for your post.